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From what I see of many people and their opinions on hell and heaven, they seem to draw them from sources such as Dante's "Inferno" and lots of new-age NDE descriptions of "heaven".

I am curious as to what the Bible directly says on the matter. What verses describe these two places? Are they similar at all to the descriptions granted by Dante and other writers on the subject?
 

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I did a Google search and found some verses which describe Hell. This is by no means an exhaustive list, but it shows where the 'fire and brimstone' theology comes fro,.

'cast into a furnace of fire' (Matthew 13:42,50).
'hell fire' (Mark 9:47).
'the fire that never shall be quenched' (Mark. 9:43,45). 'everlasting destruction' (2 Thessalonians 1:9).
'flaming fire taking vengeance' (2 Thessalonians 1:8).
'tormented day and night forever and ever' (Revelation 20:10).
 
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From what I see of many people and their opinions on hell and heaven, they seem to draw them from sources such as Dante's "Inferno" and lots of new-age NDE descriptions of "heaven".

I am curious as to what the Bible directly says on the matter. What verses describe these two places? Are they similar at all to the descriptions granted by Dante and other writers on the subject?

Hi, never read Dante's Inferno. Sorry no paper on heaven but here is scripture with summaries of the places considered hell in the bible.

Hi, This is a teaching on hell and obviously not my own, but much work put forth from the one who wrote it, in showing the various words used in the bible, with scriptures given.

For sciptures about heaven. do www.biblegateway.com, choose New international version (bibile), and use key word search, type in heaven; view results then hit back key, type in paradise and do the same, other key words you can think of; and toggle to find all words for heaven as will bring up heavenly also and find exact match for paradise, also toggle to genesis to revelation for searching whole bible, or choose nt only. Heaven in the bible may not be described using just those two terms for searching, but it's a start. Also go to Revelation 21 and 22.



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The Bible mentions a number of places where the departed dead go. It mentions heaven, paradise, Sheol, the grave, the pit, Hades, Abraham’s bosom, Gehenna, the abyss, the lake of fire, and Tartarus. What do these terms mean? In this examination of where the unrighteous dead go after they die, we aren’t concerned about heaven. So we will only discuss heaven and paradise as it relates to our subject
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Sheol is portrayed as a sort of fortress with bars, gates, chambers, and keys (Job 17:16; Ps 18:5; Pro 7:27; Jon 2:2). An unidentified group of beings called the r’phaeem also exist in Sheol (Pro 9:18; Isa 14:9). Sheol is in some way, perhaps even physically, connected with abaddon, the abyss of the N.T. (Job 26:6; Pro 15:11; 27:20; Rev 9:11). Although man has no power to deliver himself from Sheol, Yahweh is able (Isa 2:6; Ps 16:10; 30:3; 49:15; Hos 13:14).
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What is Hades? The following passages are a complete concordance of the word. (Mat. 11:23; 16:18; Lk 10:15; 16:23; Act 2:27,31; Rev 1:18; 6:8; 20:13,14. This is what I conclude after I studied the above Scripture passages on Hades thoroughly: Hades is talked about consistently in a negative way. The soul went to Hades while the flesh would see corruption (Act 2:27,31). According to Christ’s account of Hades in Lk 16, the rich man’s body was buried, but he went to Hades (23). Abraham, Lazarus, and the rich man, all were conscious. The rich man was tormented in Hades (23) because: He sinned (Deu 15:7-17; Ps 112:9; Pro 19:17; Mat 5:7; Lk 12:20,21). He didn’t believe God’s law (29,30). There was a good part where Lazarus was in bliss with Abraham and a place of torment where the rich man was in torment. There was an impassable gulf between these two places. Some who had been in Hades before Christ died and was resurrected were in a good part of Hades.
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Gehenna, Tartarus and the lake of fire are all words or phrases that describe what we think of as Hell.
The following passages are a complete concordance of the word, Gehenna. Mat 5:22,29,30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15,33; Mk 9:43,45,47; Lk 12:5; Jam 3:6.

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The following passages are a complete concordance of the word, abyss. Lk 8:31; Ro 10:7 (Deu 30:13); Rev 9:1,2,11; 11:7; 17:8; 20:1,3.
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Tartarus is a little different. It seems to be a place where the fallen angels were kept. I mean those angels who went into the daughters of men at the time before the flood. Only the verb is used in the New Testament. 2 Pe 2:4. The BGD Greek Lexicon explains Tartarus thus. “Tartarus, thought of by the Greeks as a subterranean place lower than Hades where divine punishment was meted out, was so regarded in Jewish apocalyptic as well.” Durant records (V.2, p.99), “Hesiod’s mythology . . . . Out of the mating of . . . Uranus and Ge . . . came a race of Titans . . . . Uranus liked them not, and condemned them to gloomy Tartarus. . . . The Titans captured Olympus . . . (But when Zeus grew up, he) plunged the Titans back into the bowels of the earth.”



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The lake of fire is what I would call Hell, if I used that term. It is used in Rev 14:10,11; 19:20; 20:10,14,15; 21:8. Fire used with other words and phrases: Gehenna (Mat 5:22; 18:9); Wailing and gnashing of teeth (Mat 13:37-42,47-50); Eternal (Mat 18:8; 25:41-46; Jud 7); Not quenched (Mk 9:43-48); Indignation (Heb. 10:27) and tormented (Rev. 14:10,11).
God bless,
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Okay, I've got some pretty descriptive positions on hell. Now what about this heaven I hear so little about?

Having only knowledge of hell leads one to a negative acceptance, ie "I'm doing this because of something I don't want." Say I have been told that if I'm going to travel I have only 2 countries I can visit, Paradisio and Infero. A person claiming to be from Paradisio comes to me and tells me about all the terrible things in Inferno and that I don't want to go there. Not wanting to visit such an awful place, I certainly would choose not to got to Inferno, but what about Paradisio? It could be just as bad for all I know and thus I'd rather not go to either.

Analogies aside, lets hear about the biblical description of where the righteous get to go.
 
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Secondary note... Tapero, I just noticed the link to the place where I can look up heaven stuff. I kinda missed it amongst the deluge of verses on hell there. I will take a look.

No problem, I'll try and research also.

blessings,
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Heaven is the place where G-d the Father makes His home (John 14:2) and where Jesus has gone to prepare a place for us. (And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. John 14:3 )

The "heavenly Jerusalem" is spoken of in Galations 4:26, Hebrews 12:22, and Revelation 3:12.

In Mathew 25:1 and James 2:5 we see the phrase "Kingdom of Heaven". So we know that it is a Kingdom that belongs to G-d the Father. We also know that it is an "eternal kingdom" (see 2 Peter 1:11) which makes sense, as G-d is the Alpha and the Omega. He never ends, so of course His Kingdom would never end. It will be our eternal home and our "eternal inheritance" (1 Peter 1:4 and Hebrews 9:15). The phrase inheritance suggests that it is meant for G-d's children. All of humanity are G-d's children, but just as in human families, not every member of the family will receive the inheritance. In the case of Heaven, it will be given to those who placed their trust in G-d, and accepted His gift of eternal salvation, through the Savior, Jesus Christ. He offers it to us all, and it is our choice to accept or refuse. I pray that you will accept, and be there one day. :)


Heaven will not have any suffering, and we will be delivered forever from all wickedness, death, and heartache. (2 Corinthians 5:1-2, 2 Corinthians 4:17, Revelation 21:4) It's a place where we will experience the "fullness of joy" forever. Luke 20:36, 2 Corinthians 4:16-18, 1 Peter 1:4, 1 Peter 5:10, 1 John 3:2)

You can look all of those up in your bible if you have one, or you can google the verses, and you'll be taken to one of any number of online bibles.


I couldn't leave you without a glimpse of what is to come though, so here you go..... the best description of all:


Revelation 21


1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
13On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
18And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
19And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
20The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
21And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. 27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
 
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Okay, I know it's probably wrong to perform thread necromancy on my own question, but I finally had some time to sit down and look at this. After reading the description of heaven given in that passage of Revelations my imagination was peeked. I sat down, pulled out what all the measurements were in today's terms, and then looked up all the minerals described there. After getting a feel for the description and scale I took to my 3D program and churned out these images of what it was describing.

heavencube.jpg

Here it is from one of the best perspectives I could get and still show details. I wasn't really trying to get it to look so ominous, but it really turned out that way. To be perfectly honest, I'd be scared to death if I saw that coming. Now to give a better grasp on the scale we're describing here, it is described as 12,000 furlongs (1,500 miles). Here's an image that shows what that means....
heavencubefromorbit.jpg

I really hate to say it, but the only thing I can think of is that it looks like a bejeweled borg cube... either that or some kind of massive prison.

Just what my mind sees from the Bible's description.
 
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From what I see of many people and their opinions on hell and heaven, they seem to draw them from sources such as Dante's "Inferno" and lots of new-age NDE descriptions of "heaven".

I am curious as to what the Bible directly says on the matter. What verses describe these two places? Are they similar at all to the descriptions granted by Dante and other writers on the subject?
On the whole there isn't very much, and Dante's pictures were drawn more from extra-biblical sources than from the bible.

Additionally, lots of people mix up what the bible has to say about heaven and what the bible has to say about the new creation, imagining them to be the same thing. The bible says very little about the nature of heaven, and not a whole heap more to say about the nature of hell. It does have quite a lot to say about the kingdom of God in the New Creation in (amongst other places) Revelations, but that isn't the same thing as heaven.
 
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From what I see of many people and their opinions on hell and heaven, they seem to draw them from sources such as Dante's "Inferno" and lots of new-age NDE descriptions of "heaven".

I am curious as to what the Bible directly says on the matter. What verses describe these two places? Are they similar at all to the descriptions granted by Dante and other writers on the subject?

Heaven
According to the Bible, after God makes the new heaven and new earth, there will be:
  • no more sorrow, tears, pain or death (Revelation 21:14).
  • no more night (Revelation 21:23-25).
  • no more evil (Revelation 21:27).
  • no more curse (Revelation 22:3).
And those in heaven will:
  • serve God (Revelation 22:3).
  • reign with Christ forever (Revelation 22:5).
  • live in a place prepared by Christ Himself (John 14:2-3).
  • have perfect knowledge (1 Corinthian 13:8-12).
  • be united with the redeemed of all time (1 Thessalonians 4:17; Revelation 12:12, 14).
  • have glorified bodies with powers and abilities beyond our imagination (1 Corinthians 15:35-49; Philipians 3:21).
  • live in beautiful surroundings that include magnificent buildings and wonders of nature (Revelation 21-22).
Hell
In the Bible, Jesus described hell as:
  • a place of fire (Matthew 5:22, 7:19, 13:42, 50; Mark 9:43-48).
  • a place of bodily torment (Matthew 5:29-30).
  • a place separated from God's presence (Matthew 7:23).
  • a place of darkness ( Matthew 8:12, 22:13).
  • a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 8:12, 13:42, 50, 22:13, 25:30).
  • a place of varying degrees of punishment (Mark 12:40; Luke 10:13-14, 12:47-48)
The apostles described hell as:
  • a place of indignation, wrath, tribulation and anguish (Romans 2:8-9)
  • flaming fire and everlasting destruction away from God's presence (2 Thessalonians 1:6-9).
  • eternal judgement (Hebrews 6:2).
  • fiery indignation, which will devour God's eniemies (Hebrews 10:27).
  • a place of fire (James 3:6; Jude 6-7).
  • the final expression of God's judgement (2 Peter 2:4-9).
  • a fiery place where the smoke of suffering will rise forever (Revelation 14:11).
  • a lake of fire, the second death (Revelation 20:14-15).
Hope this helps. God bless!
 
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Christ's parable of Lazarus and the rich man gives a glimpse. Whatever hell is, it's not something you want for eternity.

Luke 16:19-31

19. "Now there was a rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, joyously living in splendor every day.20. "And a poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores,21. and longing to be fed with the crumbs which were falling from the rich man's table; besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores.22. "Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham's bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried.23. "In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and *saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom.24. "And he cried out and said, `Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.'25. "But Abraham said, `Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony.26. `And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.'27. "And he said, `Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father's house--28. for I have five brothers--in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'29. "But Abraham *said, `They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.'30. "But he said, `No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!'31. "But he said to him, `If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.' "
 
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I really hate to say it, but the only thing I can think of is that it looks like a bejeweled borg cube... either that or some kind of massive prison.

Just what my mind sees from the Bible's description.
Just a little bit different because it's not going to be the same earth.
adiya said:
Revelation 21


1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
 
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I found a website a while back that I really liked that has a gallery of pictures to view. If you search for the artist, I think you'll find it.


Excerpt:

A fantastic series of 35 full color
works of art has been done by
Christian artist
Pat Marvenko Smith
that portrays the difficult to imagine
visions exactly as described in the
apocalyptic Book of Revelation, the
last book of the Bible.

The last few in the gallery show the New Jerusalem that you tried to draw. Notice that the gates are open. It’s not a prison by any means!

Rev 21:25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
 
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From what I see of many people and their opinions on hell and heaven, they seem to draw them from sources such as Dante's "Inferno" and lots of new-age NDE descriptions of "heaven".

I am curious as to what the Bible directly says on the matter. What verses describe these two places? Are they similar at all to the descriptions granted by Dante and other writers on the subject?

:wave:

For me it's simple.

Heaven - Everything exists according to Gods will and commands.

Hell - Everything that doesn't.
 
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From what I see of many people and their opinions on hell and heaven, they seem to draw them from sources such as Dante's "Inferno" and lots of new-age NDE descriptions of "heaven".

I am curious as to what the Bible directly says on the matter. What verses describe these two places? Are they similar at all to the descriptions granted by Dante and other writers on the subject?
You made a very good question and I enjoy honest questions. Honest questions are not always easy to answer but they are enjoyable to answer. I can't post the entire answer here so you will have to go to this website: http://www.av1611.org/hell.html

It is interesting.
 
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Dante's Inferno has no doubt done much good, but it is a highly imaginative work and excells mostly in his capturing the spirit of the utter hopelessness of hell. He succeeded quite well in that regard.

I also balked at the thought of placing a 1,500 mile high facility upon this Earth and what that would do to the planet's stability of axis, until I considered this thought: This isn't the true Earth! It is mostly speculation, but I believe that the Lord never originally created suns in our universe as He was the sole source of illumination then. When the angels rebelled, sin entered this universe and God then, out of the necessity of His perfect holiness, could no longer dwell in the midst of corruption and so He withdrew back into the third heavens, but set the center orbs of the orb systems ablaze first both for the purposes of alternate lighting, heat, etc., and as a solemn warning of a coming day of judgment upon our corrupted world. Given this theory were true, that would mean that the primary planet of our solar system and the grandest of them all was what we now know as our sun! I have forgotten the sun's diameter, but I believe that it is so huge that a 1,500 mile high, pyramidical city could be placed upon such an immense orb. This orb is only a temporary, surrogate Earth...But just wait.
 
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Okay, I know it's probably wrong to perform thread necromancy on my own question, but I finally had some time to sit down and look at this. After reading the description of heaven given in that passage of Revelations my imagination was peeked. I sat down, pulled out what all the measurements were in today's terms, and then looked up all the minerals described there. After getting a feel for the description and scale I took to my 3D program and churned out these images of what it was describing.

heavencube.jpg

Here it is from one of the best perspectives I could get and still show details. I wasn't really trying to get it to look so ominous, but it really turned out that way. To be perfectly honest, I'd be scared to death if I saw that coming. Now to give a better grasp on the scale we're describing here, it is described as 12,000 furlongs (1,500 miles). Here's an image that shows what that means....
heavencubefromorbit.jpg

I really hate to say it, but the only thing I can think of is that it looks like a bejeweled borg cube... either that or some kind of massive prison.

Just what my mind sees from the Bible's description.


Wow.. this is some really cool images...

Nifty huh?

Well... when they say heaven is gonna be big.. apparently.. they were not kidding...

God Bless

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Dear HumanisticJones. When jesus talked of Heaven, it was the place where there will be mansions, which He will prepare for His followers, and it will be God`s Kingdom. For those of us who do not want to repent, to return to God, there is a place in outer darkness, where there can be heard loud wailing, and gnashing of teeth. No doubt because there we will realise how shortsighted we were, to refuse the Free Gift, Jesus our Redeemer paid for, and we rejected. to be without God, and our Christian brothers and sisters for eternity, is sheer Hell. There is a place of fire and brimstone, but that is reserved for Satan and his evil offspring, or likeminded followers. I say this humbly and kindly, HumanisticJones, and send greetings. Emmy, sister in Christ.
 
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