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[Noxot]

the flesh naturally wants to keep going at it. it is a natural fearful reaction to catch covid 19 and spread it to my fellows, especially the ones I built up attachments to. I don't know how much I can control how my soul and flesh are. I can't sort out what I am supposed to overcome and what is supposed to make me what I am. I experience darkness. I can not help that I don't desire to be part of the world. but in forsaking the annoying parts it seems I must also forsake important parts.

what is the point in existing just to be persecuted by my fellows? people get arrested for dumb things and then proceed to get nearly beat to death in jail. humans do not have rest. death is better than keeping this half dead and half alive world going. it is not good enough. if I live, it should be fully and not half way. but I feel alienated. I feel slightly mad. this is my rest. I don't want flaws but if I have them I don't know if I can get rid of them.

 

[Refirened]

the flesh naturally wants to keep going at it. it is a natural fearful reaction to catch covid 19 and spread it to my fellows, especially the ones I built up attachments to. I don't know how much I can control how my soul and flesh are. I can't sort out what I am supposed to overcome and what is supposed to make me what I am. I experience darkness. I can not help that I don't desire to be part of the world. but in forsaking the annoying parts it seems I must also forsake important parts.

what is the point in existing just to be persecuted by my fellows? people get arrested for dumb things and then proceed to get nearly beat to death in jail. humans do not have rest. death is better than keeping this half dead and half alive world going. it is not good enough. if I live, it should be fully and not half way. but I feel alienated. I feel slightly mad. this is my rest. I don't want flaws but if I have them I don't know if I can get rid of them.

Hey Noxot, I see by your avatar you seem aware of things most are probably not aware of in relation to this system.

I heard a sermon today that pointed out this Scripture.

Acts 15:9

9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
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The Scripture points out that it's by the power of faith that the heart can be purified. Faith purifies the heart not us in our own strength trying to be perfect which is usually the trap we tend to fall into. Faith opens the door for the Holy Spirit to purify the heart instead of us trying to purify our hearts in our own strength and mite.

Romans 8:13

For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.​

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[Noxot]

Rest. It was said that goodness can be identified by evil. God was not happy with such poverty. Poor evils existence. What a tragedy evil is. How sad that in God revealing himself that poor evil must exist, since the void of goodness can be known by thinking about what goodness is not or by not doing or being what is good. But God is overflowing. God Saves us sinners. He makes us his son. He says you may know me by knowing my child.

 

[Scott Husted]

The process of a seed once planted that becomes a great tree where all the foul of the air rest in is truly a truth of the soul/mind, just as God giving us rest from all our enemies round about is.

Life is full of issues that continually attempt to distract us via our thoughts, which can be either good or evil; but not all things that are evil are necessarily evil and not all things that are good are necessarily good. Both are capable of being the thief that steals our thoughts by which we are held captive. Yet it is through captivity that he brings us back into where by it we were taken away into captivity to begin with.

 

[Noxot]

The world cannot be wholly and fully complete in its own age. The more factors the harder it is to perfect it. people are constantly being born coming into the world new and ignorant ready to experience old problems afresh again. they quickly cling to one thing because there's some goodness in it and they quickly Fall Away into its opposite, because evil Creeps in and utilizes opportunity for its own benefit and ways. this world is a silly dream and when people die they will keep experiencing it until they find the truth. There is no rush. So even angels don't know what they are. but not knowing what they are is closer to the truth than saying that they know. I think that a lot of our problems are due to being mortal creatures and that's what this world is designed for. It would be something completely different if there was no suffering.

 

[Scott Husted]

In a sense it is the womb of Rebecca ...

 

[Scott Husted]

It's another collective form of seed time and harvest.

 

[Noxot]

I think that our unwilling subjugation to emptiness and frustration is because of the hope of what we could make out of this world. God's rain does not return void. There is a prized Oakwood that was trapped and preserved in a swamp/bog for many years. Another nice kind of wood is Cypress. They have found some Cypress Forest under the ocean near Louisiana. It's a beautiful wood. I guess wood is a special thing because of the cross.

 

[Noxot]

There are many forms of my rest just as much as I have troubles with the chaff, the dregs of the wine, the crude elements of myself and of the world. My enemies give me rest. the burnt down forest they create make it easier to walk through. It would feel very awkward and I would never consent to it but I am much more in the line of prophets than I am of those priests.

I don't know much about what the blood of Jesus Christ says but I think it's something like forgive them Father because they don't know what they do and also not my will but your will. but of course he wanted his father's will as he loved him very much, he knew how good he was and how much loved he was by his father. He actually cared about people and loved them, knew how to draw many to himself to put them in a better condition and to establish something good in the world. Every righteous person is a rest to myself. I can't always recognize it but when I do it's a comfort to me.

Nature naturally gives me rest (when it's not busy destroying me and my kind).

 

[Scott Husted]

Rest can be found in any form when the truth is found to be in you: to the pure all things are pure.

Your body really is full of light when your eye is single ... just another form of rest ...

 

[Noxot]

Luke 21

At the end Luke 21:37 in the day he was teaching in the temple and at night he went out and abode in the Mount of Olives.

Olives are of course one of the most precious foods that humans have. This mount of Olives must have been a great resting place. Earlier prophetically he was warning people that at a certain time they must flee to the mountains.

Looking at the Greek word for understand... after the resurrection when he opened their mind that they may understand the scriptures... Means to put together. Then a bit later in Luke 24:47 he charged them that repentance and freedom from sin should be preached in his name among all nations beginning at Jerusalem. But he said to be in Jerusalem until we are clothed with power from on high.

There was something about this city speaking of two Hills. To flow as water and to be safe is what some people are thinking the root words are.

The last verse Luke 24:53 the last word God gave us in this gospel: and were continually in a sacred place, praising and blessing God. Amen. That word "A sacred place" was apparently the general Precincts of the Temple. There is a different word used for the central Sanctuary itself.

I was looking at Genesis 36. The very first verse says that Esau which means rough is Edom which means red. I never noticed or I forgot that word is basically Adam.

Concerning gifts. Genesis 25:5-6 all Abraham had he gave to Isaac but to his sons of concubines Abraham gave gifts and sent them away from Isaac while he lived, East. I cannot tell if it was when Abraham or when Isaac yet lived. Edit obviously it was when Abraham yet lived, >.<

I guess in general places like luz (the name of two places, some kind of nut tree perhaps the almond) Bethany (date-house) and the Mount of Olives are all designations of food which is certainly a kind of rest. Almonds of course are a stone fruit. Stone fruit have cyanide in them. Some wild almonds have too much cyanide.

 

[Noxot]

Apparently there is a lot of confusion over what Bethany means. House of dates, figs, Sorrows, welcome. ;/

Bethany (Greek: Βηθανία (Bethania), which is probably of Aramaic or Hebrew origin, meaning "house of welcome" or "house of figs") is a feminine given name derived from the Biblical place name, Bethany, a town near Jerusalem, at the foot of the Mount of Olives, where Lazarus lived in the New Testament, along with his sisters, Mary and Martha[1], and where Jesus stayed during Holy Week before his crucifixion.

... And where he ascended to heaven after he led the disciples there.

 

[icxn]

Apparently there is a lot of confusion over what Bethany means. House of dates, figs, Sorrows, welcome. ;/

It means 'house of obedience*.' Obedience houses ascetic labors (Martha) and spiritual study (Mary) and together they plead with the Master to raise up the mind (Lazarus) from its captivity (slumber) to the passions, a kind of death. Bethany is in close proximity to Jerusalem, about fifteen furlongs (John 11:18), which the obedient disciple of Christ easily traverses through the practice of God's commandments (10) and the training of his senses (5) to perceive things spiritually. He can then arrive at Jerusalem, which interpreted means 'vision of peace,' and find rest from the tumult of the passions of the flesh.

'House of figs' is also true and it symbolizes the bodily observance of the Law (the fig tree), which is the schoolmaster (Galatians 3:24) that brings us to Christ (the vine). Just like our obedience begins with external devotions (Bethany), before we can reach maturity and worship God in spirit and in truth (Jerusalem).

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* Source: Origen and Hesychius

 

[honey badger]

for me i see the manifestation of his rest/law in everything ....

as an example ... sat here on my couch and counting the leaves on the branches of my chandelier, which there are 50 ... a mixture 25 light ones and 25 dark ones .... looking at my curtains which are parted to let in the light and from where i can see the birds flying in the air and resting in the trees, and these curtains also covered in leaves... looking at my kitchen where i have the same curtains and where one prepares food and eats, which is separate but not separate from my lounge where i rest in, as opposed to my kitchen where i labor has 18 draws and 18 cupboards as in three sets of sixes or 666 as in the number/signature/identity of man... looking at my table which sits 6 (as does my lounge) having to ends and 2 sides to to it held up by 4 legs (north south & east west) which equate to four corners which i can also see in four half's of my 2 curtains .... and going back to the chandelier which my kitchen has two of with a total of 10 lights added to the leaves on my chandelier in my lounge 50 which relates to Pentecost in relation to jubilee/50 plus the law/10 equates to 60 ... and if i add the total of light bulbs in my lounge there being 15 in my lounge plus the 16 in my kitchen including the 4 above my sink and 1 above my stove totals 30 which relates to the the beginning of Christs journey and the serpent he chose and the 30 pieces of silver etc etc

so seeing the leaves of our tree or thoughts of our soul depicts which feast/day we are seeing from ... as in the sixth day of labor or the seventh day of rest and that we eat from both tables when our eye is not single ...as in being served a double portion does not change the fact that everything inside and therefor outside of us is a manifestation of his labor He has finished and therefor we are at one with Him and He now rests in us as us, and so the more we enter into the perception of this finished work the more we see and the more we see the more we enter in to the truth we are as sons who He rests in ...

we follow on to know

 

[Scott Husted]

Rest is where we are (living in the law as the law is living in us); becoming more and more defined by the process of every passing moment.

 

[honey badger]

Rest is where we are (living in the law as the law is in us); becoming more and more defined by the process of every passing moment.

yes ... the more He reveals Himself the more the shadows flee .... forgot to mention i have a table in my lounge where i also eat from, it being narrow as opposed to the wide one in my kitchen ... but already you know this

 

[Scott Husted]

yes ... the more He reveals Himself the more the shadows flee .... forgot to mention i have a table in my lounge where i also eat from, it being narrow as opposed to the wide one in my kitchen ... but already you know this

A woman that compasses a man is an amazing/ continual truth ... where there are no walls all things yield to us without measure.

 

[honey badger]

from the same view from my flat one crane is assembling a stadium in the shape of a dome where two opposing teams will struggle one against the other ... one will come first and one second, which is a refection of the womb of Rebekah in relation to her two sons and these two sons pictures of the two seeds and these two seeds relative to our reasoning between two opposites which affords us a mixed perception of self spoken of as being double minded or lukewarm etc

at the age of four after first hearing of God and His Son Jesus at a Sunday school i attended a few times i began to reason with Him ... He first appearing to me as a face in the wood grain of my cupboard in front of my bed ....

 

[Noxot]

Bats are among the most graceful of all flying creatures. Bat wings are often associated with evil. The grace of understanding the truth about the natural world is all I need to know the truth of how things will be, of that rest that all shall mysteriously attain to.

 

[honey badger]

Bats are among the most graceful of all flying creatures. Bat wings are often associated with evil. The grace of understanding the truth about the natural world is all I need to know the truth of how things will be, of that rest that all shall mysteriously attain to.

from my window i see all kinds of birds as there are lakes and salt flats on either of my town plus the Black sea ... i see pelicans, geese, ducks, storks, seagulls as well as swallows, finches, black birds, starlings, woodpeckers and magpies and ones i can not find names of ... there is also an owl but i have not seen it only hear it at night ..... there are also lots of bats which come out at sundown and pass within feet of me at times ...

but of all these my favorite is a pair of turtle doves who are residents of the trees in my view .... they really are so gentle and their cooing so pleasing ... one woke me up the other morning as its cooing was amplified as it sat on my balcony window ledge ...

i love the way our Father put a little half ring on the back of their neck which symbolizes a yoke and a yoke being just another picture of a cross which he also put on a donkeys back, which happens to be my favorite animal ....