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Derek Prince

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Recently I came across some YouTube sermons from Derek Prince. He passed in 2003 but his ministry continues.

I like his messages, and was wondering if anyone in pentecostal community had any experience or opinion of him.
 
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My opinion is that deliverance ministers are so scarce, but really needed, half ministry of Jesus was that, today is as much needed.
Most 'mental illnesses' are spiritual problems, even Christians send you to psychiatrists that can only try to alleviate symptoms they don't fix anything. Which is backwards.
 
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My opinion is that deliverance ministers are so scarce, but really needed, half ministry of Jesus was that, today is as much needed.
Most 'mental illnesses' are spiritual problems, even Christians send you to psychiatrists that can only try to alleviate symptoms they don't fix anything. Which is backwards.
I listened to a message of his, that dealt with breaking a curse and gave biblical examples of curses proclaimed upon children, spouses,etc. Thinking back, I can recall instances in My own life, where curses were proclaimed over myself and others.

Galatians 3:13 was his text, that Christ became a curse for us that we might be delivered.
 
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Derek was good, think he went a little too far in some of his examples of the threshold of what little it takes to curse yourself and your children, even in the womb. there is a stronger more defined threshold in my opinion, and the person knows when they cross it. (we can't take the least thresholds of all the information we have and make theology out of it universal for everyone)

Now, I say that as a person who was cursed from the womb with a spirit of powerlessness.


I was indirectly made aware of that curse in a dream in sep 2019.

What I ended up figuring out was that it was a generational curse on my mom's side of the family, and I sinned while still in the womb, to be affected by it.

and let me tell you, the experiences i had while praying about that dream (i didn't know who it concerned, as the dream was in the third person).. was some of the stranger experiences. remember, in the womb you don't yet learn how to speak english.. so its like.. metaphorical sins of emotional perspectives that have to be confessed... not like, a choice i made to kick my mom's spleen...


I was not affected by a generational curse on my dads side of the family, which i was made aware existed when i was 7 years old, while visiting my grandparents, i managed to find the faith to pray about it in authority, when i was 24. i never told my dad this information (his personality improved that day, permanently) but i did email my grandmother on my father's side.. she uh.. replied "i do not want to continue this conversation" and we have not spoken since then, she has never asked my dad how i'm doing.. for the last 12 years since then.
 
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I saw him in person once and he was anointed and came across as genuine. I'm not saying what he believed was never extreme but I do think it was pretty close and the results speak for themself.
 
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Thanks for the responses so far. I was painting the house last weekend, and was looking for someone to listen to while I worked. That's when I came across Dr Prince.

I have been saved for over 35 years but have been pentecostal for only 8 since meeting my wife; she has been attending pentecostal church since she was saved at age 12 but is mostly familiar with local pastors, and teachers.

I'll keep listening ...
 
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Recently I came across some YouTube sermons from Derek Prince. He passed in 2003 but his ministry continues.

I like his messages, and was wondering if anyone in pentecostal community had any experience or opinion of him.
I have long respected Derek Prince and Bob Mumford, who had very positive influences on the early Catholic charismatic movement.
 
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I saw him in person once and he was anointed and came across as genuine. I'm not saying what he believed was never extreme but I do think it was pretty close and the results speak for themself.
I do agree.

an example i think should have been communicated better was.. declaring that merely feeling like, "i don't want to be pregnant"

is enough to curse your baby with a spirit of resentment
 
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I do agree.

an example i think should have been communicated better was.. declaring that merely feeling like, "i don't want to be pregnant"

is enough to curse your baby with a spirit of resentment

Depending on how the person is saying negative stuff to others in their interior or with voice, and how strong/vulnerable/weak/protected the other person is, a negative word can do lot of hurt, until God frees you from that word binding a person could be affected all their lives, i believe there is people who are 60 or something and the parents hurtful words still haunt them, God needs to reveal what words affected you and deliver you from those.
 
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Depending on how the person is saying negative stuff to others in their interior or with voice, and how strong/vulnerable/weak/protected the other person is, a negative word can do lot of hurt, until God frees you from that word binding a person could be affected all their lives, i believe there is people who are 60 or something and the parents hurtful words still haunt them, God needs to reveal what words affected you and deliver you from those.
The power of words Proverbs 18:21 I have been guilty of being irresponsible myself

Galatians 6:1 I have heard this is like re setting a broken bone, as to not cause further damage.
 
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Depending on how the person is saying negative stuff to others in their interior or with voice, and how strong/vulnerable/weak/protected the other person is, a negative word can do lot of hurt, until God frees you from that word binding a person could be affected all their lives, i believe there is people who are 60 or something and the parents hurtful words still haunt them, God needs to reveal what words affected you and deliver you from those.
But words that hurt are not the same as demonic spirits gaining entry into the child by the parents sin.
 
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But words that hurt are not the same as demonic spirits gaining entry into the child by the parents sin.

Negative words against others can allow spirits to attack. Witches uses words to curse people too.
I don't mean words that hurt feelings only i mean words said against a person even when they didn't hear them too.
 
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Negative words against others can allow spirits to attack. Witches uses words to curse people too.
I don't mean words that hurt feelings only i mean words said against a person even when they didn't hear them too.
I agree. Negative words can open the door for demons to get a foothold in a person's thought life - especially a young child, but also adults, too.
 
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Negative words against others can allow spirits to attack. Witches uses words to curse people too.
I don't mean words that hurt feelings only i mean words said against a person even when they didn't hear them too.
If you think of the child as under the authority of the parents.. then the threshold may be that low. i have second hand observational experience in this when i asked someone, a year after an exorcism, to go "back into" that experience (in their mind) to identify if there were any additional "open doors" as to how the demons got in. all they saw was their mom, opening the door. no one/no nothing else.

But as adults, i know that what people say against me behind my back does not spiritually harm me.


basically, and i'm at odds with a local church in my hometown that has gone overboard with this stuff..... what happens is you end up teaching a spirit of fear.

be afraid of every negative thought in your mind.
be afraid of every negative word spoken in front or behind your back.

be afraid of witches you've never met cursing your church/house/ministry/etc.
be afraid of not taking advantage of and utilizing your authority in Jesus to fix all these problems, including the fear problem.

so this becomes a circular loop. be afraid.. but not be afraid at the same time.

i know a woman who has been afraid of me for the last 5 years. not because of me.. but because 5 years ago i asked her why wouldn't you want me to reconcile with my ex. and in reply all she could utter is "that woman is evil, stay away from her"

so because i look forwards to fixing this problem, she is afraid of me too. and my ex, but because i wanted to reconcile (at the time mind you) she is too afraid to tell me what she knows.

so she goes to this church i'm speaking of. and, i coincidentally met the (soon to be new) pastor, and caught up with another friend i hadn't seen in like 20 years. (this wass 2 months ago)

the new pastor seemed more interested in clinging to his "power and authority" message, declaring to me God wanted to set me free of this nonsense.. than he was concerned with the woman's fear.. of both of us.

so a few nights ago i emailed the church and told them the matter i spoke of needs to be taken seriously..

i have a gut feeling i'm not going to get a reply...
 
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basically, and i'm at odds with a local church in my hometown that has gone overboard with this stuff..... what happens is you end up teaching a spirit of fear.

be afraid of every negative thought in your mind.
be afraid of every negative word spoken in front or behind your back.

be afraid of witches you've never met cursing your church/house/ministry/etc.
be afraid of not taking advantage of and utilizing your authority in Jesus to fix all these problems, including the fear problem.
2 Corinthians 10:3-5
Those who are saved in Christ, are the head and not the tail. His Word and The Spirit prevail over every other spirit.

Galatians 3:13-14 Christ completed the work. We must trust in Him, that it is finished.
 
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Christ completed the work. We must trust in Him, that it is finished.
if it was finished.. there would not be a war going on right now.

so yes there is spiritual warfare to be waged. those battles are not done. but teaching people to be afraid of the potential for other people and other spirits to do damage.. is not productive.
 
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if it was finished..

I'm really not sure what you are implying here...

If God said so, and you say not...

I mean, what does that mean then exactly?

Are you saying He didn't finish it?

Just curious.

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As for the thread's main topic.

Derek Prince is a light in a world of darkness.

He seemed to get into mass delivering people in some cases and I'm not sure what that is about.

Some of those events seemed odd.

But other than that I personally think he is a great guide if his work helps you.
 
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