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derealization/depersonalization
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I went thru the same thing. EOCD extinal obsessive compulsive disorder. I had it going on strong for a few months back in 08. Met this really GRT doc who said I am way to stressed out and didn't understand why previous doctors had not tried a Benzo. God is allowing this to happen to make you stronger. I know it seems that it ttakes away your witness and all but I think sometimes God calls a time out. Also He never promise the ride would be smooth but He promises a safe landing.
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Great posting by dabro, I also have OCD....but only miles. I went through what you're currently going through too, therapy helped out a lot for me, as well as taking an SSRI.
Things WILL get better, you just have to remain strong and give it time. God Bless!
Things WILL get better, you just have to remain strong and give it time. God Bless!
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Hey Frank,
I've been reading CF a bit over the past week but your post compelled me to register. I have, recently, gone through an extended period during which I was frequently suffering from depersonalisation/derealisation. You hardly need me to tell you that it is a truly horrible, despairing situation to be in and I completely sympathise with you.
It sounds like you're trying to do exactly what I was; trying to rationalise it, trying to think 'why?' and probably ending up with, 'I must be a really horrible person for this to happen'.
The reality is that no one understands exactly why this happens, the only consensus seems to be that a build up of anxiety aggravates and possibly triggers it. You sound very anxious to me and I really do understand that. I found it helpful to find some 'safe zones'.
These were places I felt very comfortable but beyond that it also meant to 'surround myself' by something 'safe' and recognised. Putting your favourite film on in the background or maybe putting your favourite CD on.
Acknowledge to yourself that this is happening but try not to over-think why it is happening. Tell yourself that yes, you feel horrible, but you are safe. Your favourite scenes or favourite melodies will shine through your despair and give you something to focus on.
I wish you the very best, I hope you are able to get through this time. I wholly mean it when I say, I know how you are feeling.
Frið,
I've been reading CF a bit over the past week but your post compelled me to register. I have, recently, gone through an extended period during which I was frequently suffering from depersonalisation/derealisation. You hardly need me to tell you that it is a truly horrible, despairing situation to be in and I completely sympathise with you.
It sounds like you're trying to do exactly what I was; trying to rationalise it, trying to think 'why?' and probably ending up with, 'I must be a really horrible person for this to happen'.
The reality is that no one understands exactly why this happens, the only consensus seems to be that a build up of anxiety aggravates and possibly triggers it. You sound very anxious to me and I really do understand that. I found it helpful to find some 'safe zones'.
These were places I felt very comfortable but beyond that it also meant to 'surround myself' by something 'safe' and recognised. Putting your favourite film on in the background or maybe putting your favourite CD on.
Acknowledge to yourself that this is happening but try not to over-think why it is happening. Tell yourself that yes, you feel horrible, but you are safe. Your favourite scenes or favourite melodies will shine through your despair and give you something to focus on.
I wish you the very best, I hope you are able to get through this time. I wholly mean it when I say, I know how you are feeling.
Frið,
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I had this depersonalization problem about a year ago. Are you under alot of stress? Have you recently experienced any trauma in your personal life, like death, relationship problems, etc.? I believe that mine came from dealing with multiple deaths that I really didn't deal with when they happened. It may be your minds way of coping... not wanting to really accept what has happened. It will eventually go away. Maybe you should try medication for depression and ocd??? Also try and exercise alot and be in the sun as much as you can. (I know it's hard right now). This is a very scary experience, and I feel for you!! Believe that God will deliver you!! Take this scary and fearful time to draw closer to Him and fully trust in Him. Let Him be everything, let Him bring you peace.
Be strong, do not fear; your God will come with vengeance; with divine retribution He will come to save you. Isaiah 34:4
Be strong, do not fear; your God will come with vengeance; with divine retribution He will come to save you. Isaiah 34:4
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Uh how I can get so comforted on this site... Must not sit too much by the pc, have to find the gooood of everything. I have become so horribly self centered alsong my situation and I just have to fight it, as when one is in ok state, he/ she is still responsible abt treating the others. I have to deal with aggressive and like 5 yrs old kid crying after what she wants since the nerval issues. The new neuro pain medication was working well until now, and somehow every day I wonder does it pay the effort to kick on. I have been using SSRI for over an year now but the amount taken down now little by little. My metabolism jumped up since the treatments for balance disorder started to work, which is just a good thing but had to lower down the medication.
I used benzos mainly for nerval irritation fits that begun after cancer treatments long ago... was doing ok since after the time I started going to international church and met my bf, had to start more of the benzos. The psych doctor ordered me to eat them every day for some time since I was having anxiety and depression and whatever that got worse. Well, it ended up the benzos lost their effect, first I got stuck at home and didnt even get out with bf. Since the psychiatric care here in capital region of Finland is what it is, I didnt have the chance to go to open sector to rest for 1 or 2 nights if I wanted to, since we don't even have open sector care anymore. The issue is trusting people and that they are able to help, despite bad experiences or bad self- worth.
I think it has been basically about life control... respecting oneself and doing what's possible. And even though its psychological, there is the spiritual element. The enemy uses anything he can, even if its purely a physical condition, to bring us down. But God has given us the responsibility about the world, as well material and spiritual side. Last months I have seen how separately God is able to work, even when the person is feeling very unreal. And, have to be totally honest about this, thinking am I not a good enough christian, have I been just too passive and lazy for this to happen. What if I had changed boyfriend? Did I survive the cancer for this? The good of cancer was, I had to really ake the decision for accepting Christ. And, I didn't trust God enough while the anxiety trouble begun, I guess that's why it got worse.
Sometimes I wish the troubling and stress would cause me some stroke or something, so I would not have to worry about getting to heaven. I have really been afraid I end up losing my place in heaven if I do something to myself without being totally crazy. One guy in our church has got the gift of deliverance and he prayed for me and Something left, he said it was the spirit of suicide. I have tried not to bee overly spiritual but as my friend one day asked me, what would make me happy for the rest of my life, I was like huh, there IS the rest of my life... since the physical things have been short- sighted about life. All I could end up with is, I dont want to spend the rest of my life handicapped because of a suicide attempt, did Jesus come back before my life ends or not.
My roommate is a christian and has got his own problems as lately immigrated person, though he's supporting me more than anyone. Also he hasn't ever known anyone with depression or so. I have met one guy I relly like and wonder how can such a person be found in Finland but since my mood goes to extremes so often, can think about a relationship only when its on the plus side. It would be not helping anyone if I would end up him leaving me, and I thought if I promise God to give up men, would He give me a better balanced life x/ So difficult to grasp the world's going on despite my stop. People get married, study, fight, get babies, work...
I can't understand why one person says I'm positive, even when Im : ( all the time. The content of my life has been running after help and now as everything is put in one to get me really researched I'm afraid they still find nothing. Also I have these passivity things, for when Im having some ok hours I want to rest and rest as Im feeling well, even if there would be something important. Its like authism or something, and I dont know should I beat myself or what to feel something. In this state Im not interested to go to psych department in hospital for they don't see much after pain care and so difficult to get out of there. Of course have to accept the help available but the psych side, and most healthcare here, is very atheistic based. One has to be careful about what he's talking to the doc or nurses, not to get worse papers :/
I have been prayed for a lot and been to prayer meetings, but the basic to change the life style and not to be ashamed of myself so much. Exercise does help, as much as Im able to have it. Oh my goodness how much Ive written but so be it. Now to sleep...
I used benzos mainly for nerval irritation fits that begun after cancer treatments long ago... was doing ok since after the time I started going to international church and met my bf, had to start more of the benzos. The psych doctor ordered me to eat them every day for some time since I was having anxiety and depression and whatever that got worse. Well, it ended up the benzos lost their effect, first I got stuck at home and didnt even get out with bf. Since the psychiatric care here in capital region of Finland is what it is, I didnt have the chance to go to open sector to rest for 1 or 2 nights if I wanted to, since we don't even have open sector care anymore. The issue is trusting people and that they are able to help, despite bad experiences or bad self- worth.
I think it has been basically about life control... respecting oneself and doing what's possible. And even though its psychological, there is the spiritual element. The enemy uses anything he can, even if its purely a physical condition, to bring us down. But God has given us the responsibility about the world, as well material and spiritual side. Last months I have seen how separately God is able to work, even when the person is feeling very unreal. And, have to be totally honest about this, thinking am I not a good enough christian, have I been just too passive and lazy for this to happen. What if I had changed boyfriend? Did I survive the cancer for this? The good of cancer was, I had to really ake the decision for accepting Christ. And, I didn't trust God enough while the anxiety trouble begun, I guess that's why it got worse.
Sometimes I wish the troubling and stress would cause me some stroke or something, so I would not have to worry about getting to heaven. I have really been afraid I end up losing my place in heaven if I do something to myself without being totally crazy. One guy in our church has got the gift of deliverance and he prayed for me and Something left, he said it was the spirit of suicide. I have tried not to bee overly spiritual but as my friend one day asked me, what would make me happy for the rest of my life, I was like huh, there IS the rest of my life... since the physical things have been short- sighted about life. All I could end up with is, I dont want to spend the rest of my life handicapped because of a suicide attempt, did Jesus come back before my life ends or not.
My roommate is a christian and has got his own problems as lately immigrated person, though he's supporting me more than anyone. Also he hasn't ever known anyone with depression or so. I have met one guy I relly like and wonder how can such a person be found in Finland but since my mood goes to extremes so often, can think about a relationship only when its on the plus side. It would be not helping anyone if I would end up him leaving me, and I thought if I promise God to give up men, would He give me a better balanced life x/ So difficult to grasp the world's going on despite my stop. People get married, study, fight, get babies, work...
I can't understand why one person says I'm positive, even when Im : ( all the time. The content of my life has been running after help and now as everything is put in one to get me really researched I'm afraid they still find nothing. Also I have these passivity things, for when Im having some ok hours I want to rest and rest as Im feeling well, even if there would be something important. Its like authism or something, and I dont know should I beat myself or what to feel something. In this state Im not interested to go to psych department in hospital for they don't see much after pain care and so difficult to get out of there. Of course have to accept the help available but the psych side, and most healthcare here, is very atheistic based. One has to be careful about what he's talking to the doc or nurses, not to get worse papers :/
I have been prayed for a lot and been to prayer meetings, but the basic to change the life style and not to be ashamed of myself so much. Exercise does help, as much as Im able to have it. Oh my goodness how much Ive written but so be it. Now to sleep...
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Hello
I had a meeting with my psych doc yesterday, and my mum was there too since the situation needs to be clear to all. It seems I just have to put myself together and make a decent plan to recover, there are no other choices. Before it I talked with my friend the pastor who I have known for a long time, also before he got his theological studies to end.
It has many times being like I want to scream or something, I have taken most of it out at swimming etc... just have to rest in faith now. just to take the right I CAN pray for people, just makes one sure I have my faith and am able to act... Sometimes it seems even some muslim woman are sent to me to bring comfort, as I am out in the city. And to experience God's love through people, I wish so much we all get all the comfort we can get and will kick the fear out.
Aamen, as we say in finnish
I had a meeting with my psych doc yesterday, and my mum was there too since the situation needs to be clear to all. It seems I just have to put myself together and make a decent plan to recover, there are no other choices. Before it I talked with my friend the pastor who I have known for a long time, also before he got his theological studies to end.
It has many times being like I want to scream or something, I have taken most of it out at swimming etc... just have to rest in faith now. just to take the right I CAN pray for people, just makes one sure I have my faith and am able to act... Sometimes it seems even some muslim woman are sent to me to bring comfort, as I am out in the city. And to experience God's love through people, I wish so much we all get all the comfort we can get and will kick the fear out.
Aamen, as we say in finnish
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Hey guys, for those of you with dp/dr I know its a terrifying expierence and I just want to let you know ive been going through anxiety/depression since I was 14 im now 20 and I developed a disorder called hppd which is like permanetly tripping because of acid which causes major dp/dr and high anxiety...I reccomend that you pray to God constantly that you believe hes going to heal you.the good thing about God is he can give you a peace during the worst time. remember though God wants to use you for something greater so you may be going through this to prepare you for something awesome, its not a punishment i know how stressful it is to go to doc to doc and get no help but if you know your doing everything with the faith of God you are 100% sure you know your headed the right way. Thats pretty much the way out of this... there is no cure for hppd and its horror but im litterly getting healed day by day so believe my friends with anxiety.. Youll overcome it.
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I've also experienced this, but few seem to have also gone through it. I've even mentioned it to counsellors and therapists who just don't get it, which was quite frustrating.
I first started experiencing it around the age of 11 when I first started becoming anxious. It was scary, but I kinda enjoyed it, and I used to be able to make myself go into that state. Now, whenever it happens I just go into panic mode and find myself digging my nails into my hands/other fingers to try and get my grip back on reality.
I first started experiencing it around the age of 11 when I first started becoming anxious. It was scary, but I kinda enjoyed it, and I used to be able to make myself go into that state. Now, whenever it happens I just go into panic mode and find myself digging my nails into my hands/other fingers to try and get my grip back on reality.
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Wow-you really took words out of my mouth..I feel the depersonalization alot lately, I hate being alone, I get scared. I have really been ramping up my Bible devotions lately. I can't even look in a mirror sometimes. I feel like Im going crazy. I'm on anti depressants, but really don't seem to be doing much good. I don't go out, I don't do anything. I cling to my husband when he is home so aI can be distracted, this is really getting nuts.
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hi Frank, sorry you are going through this, I have problems with panic, ocd, and derealization...it is pure hell.
you asked why is God doing this to you? Not sure that He is, but even so you are not alone in your suffering, many on this earth suffer, this world is not our home.
Apostle Paul asked God 3 times to remove his "thorn", God said no, because God was going to use the thorn to keep Paul humble, and have Paul learn, Gods grace is enough.
Romans 5 tells us we suffer for these reasons
3We can rejoice, too, when we run into problems and trials, for we know that they help us develop endurance. ENDURANCE
4And endurance develops strength of character, and character strengthens our confident hope of salvation. CHARACTER, HOPE IN SALVATION
5And this hope will not lead to disappointment. For we know how dearly God loves us, because he has given us the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with his love. GOD GAVE US THE HOLY SPIRIT, HE LOVES US, LEAN ON HIM
The only thing that helped me with derealization and panic attacks was Lexapro, it saved my life. I have been on it for 5yrs, I am trying to get off to see what will happen.
you asked why is God doing this to you? Not sure that He is, but even so you are not alone in your suffering, many on this earth suffer, this world is not our home.
Apostle Paul asked God 3 times to remove his "thorn", God said no, because God was going to use the thorn to keep Paul humble, and have Paul learn, Gods grace is enough.
Romans 5 tells us we suffer for these reasons
3We can rejoice, too, when we run into problems and trials, for we know that they help us develop endurance. ENDURANCE
4And endurance develops strength of character, and character strengthens our confident hope of salvation. CHARACTER, HOPE IN SALVATION
5And this hope will not lead to disappointment. For we know how dearly God loves us, because he has given us the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with his love. GOD GAVE US THE HOLY SPIRIT, HE LOVES US, LEAN ON HIM
The only thing that helped me with derealization and panic attacks was Lexapro, it saved my life. I have been on it for 5yrs, I am trying to get off to see what will happen.
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I had OCD for 5 years and it controlled my life so much I turned to drugs and alcohol. That made it worse and one day my mind and body snapped into a series of panic attacks. I had such bad anxiety, depression, sleeping problems, depersonalization, and derealization, for days after the panic that I almost killed myself because of everything I went through. Since then I still struggle a bit with my mind but I see a psychologist and I am on medication. Things will only get better if you get help. I struggle with anxiety and everything that comes with it but every day gets better. I have God on my side now and I am proud to say I got rid of my OCD. I now avoid alcohol and drugs but remember that you always have to pay the consequences for your sins but God will still love you. I hope this helps.
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