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Depression Question

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About nine years ago I was very upset about a situation, and every time I saw it my vision would blur, like I was trying to block the thing out.

Yeah same.

Memory really tanks too. I often can't remember things I did 5-10 seconds ago.

I do hate depression, but its hard to get out of. Like sticky mud.
 
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I think depression is a perfectly rational reaction to living in this universe.

I reckon living on this earth more like it. It is true if I didn't have God's promises to hope and live for I ould have committed suicide long before. It is dark down here.

However it is or us not to be overcome by the darkness but rather live for the light. When we sow negative things in our heart it kills the positive and makes us like this world a godforsaken place with satan in charge, so it is best to grow good things over against the bad things around everywhere so that at least for you and your loved ones there are good things in store not just bad.

So please cultivate love for God and neighbour and be humble and loving unlike most down here, and the God will open the flood gates from heaven and bless you every day again, depressed or not.

An invitation to The Chosen.

God's Love will not take or will
you to conform to rules or demand
which imprison, enslave, burn or kill you.

God's Love will not pervert what's Good
The Lord loves truthfully Wise and Good.
True Love was, is and always will be Good!

In God's Love you are free to be right!
In His love everything is good proper and kind.
He loves all who love good and true to rule!

His Love is caring, providing, and sharing.
His Love always enjoys and protects good life.
His love rules even when bad life has being in us!

Hear Jesus call - 'Come join up with us all!
Leave whatever ties you down and be free
loving good life with all God's own to be.'

To the rest in your heart God's asks
how long will you tarry in the darkness?
Please leave such bad existence within.

For life must not, no never should, or would, or could,
be forceful, rude, prideful, arrogant, selfish, lustful
or otherwise be untrue to God's loving truth.

Neither should life be hurting or ill,
hungry, oppressed, despised, hated
or otherwise have existence in wrong.

Please hand your Bad Life over to Jesus
Humbly ask for His Good Life back in return
and go love God, self and neighbour with Joy.

The Church knows that Jesus is coming soon
All bad life will be our shameful past then,
so please leave your bad life while you can!

Love
 
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Is it okay to quit cold turkey? I've only been on it for a little over three weeks.

Might be, but don't be surprised if there are complications. If you're going to quit, I'd suggest a gradual drop. It's only been three weeks though, so it's not likely that you have to have a specific plan for getting out of it. Just take less and less, and then quit.

You said you don't have an insurance. How much would it cost to continue treatment and experimenting with other meds? You probably can't know the exact sum, but you probably have an idea.
 
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Might be, but don't be surprised if there are complications. If you're going to quit, I'd suggest a gradual drop. It's only been three weeks though, so it's not likely that you have to have a specific plan for getting out of it. Just take less and less, and then quit.

You said you don't have an insurance. How much would it cost to continue treatment and experimenting with other meds? You probably can't know the exact sum, but you probably have an idea.

I'm not going to try any other meds. I will skip my dose tomorrow and see what happens.
 
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I'm not going to try any other meds. I will skip my dose tomorrow and see what happens.
Bad idea! If you've been on it 3 weeks, it will take time to get off. Cut down to half a dose each day for a week, then stop. Don't stop cold turkey. You must come down gradually.
 
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Bad idea! If you've been on it 3 weeks, it will take time to get off. Cut down to half a dose each day for a week, then stop. Don't stop cold turkey. You must come down gradually.

I agree don't make matters worse by dumping your meds, I've done it and it cost me dearly making me more unwell than i was already. Google your meds and see what they recommend doing going off them they usually give a pretty good idea how fast or slow you ought to go. Some medications I could only go down by milligrams at the time, carefully filling a bit more off each week as not to get too unwell going off it.

Please take care, mental illness can be the pits.
 
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I agree don't make matters worse by dumping your meds, I've done it and it cost me dearly making me more unwell than i was already. Google your meds and see what they recommend doing going off them they usually give a pretty good idea how fast or slow you ought to go. Some medications I could only go down by milligrams at the time, carefully filling a bit more off each week as not to get too unwell going off it.

Please take care, mental illness can be the pits.

I'm not mentally ill; I was using the Wellbutrin off label for fatigue.
 
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I'm not mentally ill; I was using the Wellbutrin off label for fatigue.
Okay, sorry I misunderstood the situation, this being a depression forum I assumed you were depressed as well as fatigued. I see no reason not to dump them then.

I found that homeopathy really helped me with my fatigue, insomnia, rage, psychosis and depression. For example just taking Aurum for my depression, didn't only treat that but solved 2/3 of the fatigue as well. Some times our bodies suffer from imbalances and this is the reason we get bothering symptoms, like fatigue or hay fever or even develop mental illness. It might be worth trying out some homeopathic remedies for fatigue if you haven't already.

Have a read of this and see if there is something for you - about 2/3 down there is a whole list of remedies used to treat fatigue and the kind of conditions that go with it.
http://www.britishhomeopathic.org/b...elp/conditions-a-z/an-overpowering-tiredness/
 
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Okay, sorry I misunderstood the situation, this being a depression forum I assumed you were depressed as well as fatigued. I see no reason not to dump them then.

I found that homeopathy really helped me with my fatigue, insomnia, rage, psychosis and depression. For example just taking Aurum for my depression, didn't only treat that but solved 2/3 of the fatigue as well. Some times our bodies suffer from imbalances and this is the reason we get bothering symptoms, like fatigue or hay fever or even develop mental illness. It might be worth trying out some homeopathic remedies for fatigue if you haven't already.

Have a read of this and see if there is something for you - about 2/3 down there is a whole list of remedies used to treat fatigue and the kind of conditions that go with it.
http://www.britishhomeopathic.org/b...elp/conditions-a-z/an-overpowering-tiredness/

I am depressed, but I'm not bothered by that. But I would be much better if I wasn't tired everyday. I lost my job because of it.
 
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I am depressed, but I'm not bothered by that. I think people who aren't are twisted. But I would be much better if I wasn't tired everyday. I lost my job because of it.

If you are so tired because you are depressed then maybe try the Aurum I mentioned before will help you. I take 2x 1m pills to improve my depression and get energy again to get going. It doesn't seem to help 24/7 against depression but overall my energy has improved manifold and I'm up and about again most days. (after spending years sitting in my chair unable to get up or going and perpetually tired.) It has been a real liberation.

You can buy it at amazon, after a a few days you will already know if this stuff will help or not, anyhow it is not overly expensive.

Might be worth a try
 
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If you are so tired because you are depressed then maybe try the Aurum I mentioned before will help you. I take 2x 1m pills to improve my depression and get energy again to get going. It doesn't seem to help 24/7 against depression but overall my energy has improved manifold and I'm up and about again most days. (after spending years sitting in my chair unable to get up or going and perpetually tired.) It has been a real liberation.

You can buy it at amazon, after a a few days you will already know if this stuff will help or not, anyhow it is not overly expensive.

Might be worth a try

Okay, I'll look into it.
 
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Keep seeking from God for answers. Online searches prayerfully, and in person inquiries, may provide
a lot of simple, useful, and helpful information; (especially from people who have been where you are and recovered).
God's Promise, From His Word, is that whoever seeks, and keeps on seeking (don't give up) will find what they are seeking. (especially His Kingdom! (the best ever, naturally and in every way ! ) )
Notice all through Scripture what accompanied followers of Jesus who became His disciples forever: Righteousness, Peace and Joy, along with the incredible gift of eternal life !
God plays no favorites. Every good gift is from God.

My doctor wrote "major depression" on my diagnosis/prescription sheet. ...... Everyday I wake up tired, really tired. I was diagnosed with mild apnea, and I'm treated for that. But I'm still tired. My question is, does depression cause a lot of fatigue?
 
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Keep seeking from God for answers. Online searches prayerfully, and in person inquiries, may provide
a lot of simple, useful, and helpful information; (especially from people who have been where you are and recovered).
God's Promise, From His Word, is that whoever seeks, and keeps on seeking (don't give up) will find what they are seeking. (especially His Kingdom! (the best ever, naturally and in every way ! ) )
Notice all through Scripture what accompanied followers of Jesus who became His disciples forever: Righteousness, Peace and Joy, along with the incredible gift of eternal life !
God plays no favorites. Every good gift is from God.

I asked God for help; he said no.
 
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I think I've waited long enough. But then everyone gets poked with God's stick at some point.

I have been brought up a believer and came to Christ at the age of 16. Though I went through a very unfaithful time, I basically served Him all my life, but still didn't really meet up with Him until I had been in the pit for seven years straight - well into my 40s. I attacked Him at the time - I was so overcome with lies that I blamed Him for much of my misery. However I died meeting the truth of my bad life against Him and have mourned Him ever since.

The problem is we ourselves stamp out the truth of is presence within us, and our life line with Him we break, when we believe lies about God, ourselves or our neighbour and take in these horrible realities up within us, who oppress and torture us with their presence. Like hopelessness, distrust, unbelief, doubt, guilt, fear, despair, and all kind of other misery all because we fail to see the truth of God's love over us all, because we look at the wrongs alive within people and the institutions they create all around us, including ourselves.

Now it is true that sin is hopeless, for life in lies doesn't produce good life at all but very bad life indeed. However we all know that bad has no enduring life but will perish in the end.

For truth doesn't need anything or anyone to believe in, still truth will be true, completely unaffected by anything, truth will always come out on top., this is because true is true and lies are not.

I know all this is a very simply explanation for a very complex problem. The truth tells us that lies got into the truth and is now trying to rule this planet instead of the truth - this abomination is what has been happening inside of people alone, no one or nothing else listens to evil lies, and let them rule our and other peoples reality, apart of us humans.

To escape our reality in lies and get away with it can only happen through Jesus Christ - He is The Truth and The Life - in and with Him we are safe from the devastating power of the truth of our own deeds in wrong. Through forgiveness and grace God calls us sinners into His care, there is no more loving reality in the whole of the universe than our Heavenly Father. This is who Jesus (The truth of God's love,) wants you to meet, worship and adore, for He lone is worthy of all honour and praise.

So please don't mourn your bad life any longer, rather lay it down - time and again - and deny yourself the right to have more life in wrong - time and again -and dress in His good life - until all of you has entered through the narrow gate into His glory and celebrate life instead of wail it - time and again - as such is how eternal life in and with God's truth goes.

A poem I wrote about the amazing transformation my inner reality made when I met Jesus in my life and let Him take care of me.

The Beggar Of My Existence

Begging I lay beside the road, unable to get-up or move on.
Paralysed after a viscous assault when I was just a little kid
bloodied I stared at my wretched existence for many years.
Hope had gone, pain throbbing, hungry and thirsty, cold and alone,
the inner demons dragging me deeper and deeper down the drain,
helpless the wicked abused my life, robbing me of all my possessions.

Most of my life I lay there beside the road alone
I don't know how I survived my miserable existence,
by-passers often bashed me, blaming me for their hate.
At first I was raped night after night for years,
lately mainly tortured for cruel fun and cheap thrills,
oh yes, those wicked ones have been hurting me!

Not often have peels been part of my diet,
weeds, grass, rotten fruit and insects,
that's what I ate, such meagre meals.
I was skin over bones and smelled like sewage.
Walking dead, longing for an early ending.
I didn't feel worthy to carry the name human.

Suddenly I became aware of a pleasant aroma,
a beautifully perfumed visitor, a rich stranger,
he knelt beside beside me and took hold of me
I thought, maybe he'll give me something worthwhile,
I'd better ask quickly before he goes on his way,
normally the rich don't ever stop to talk to me!

Facing the visitor I croaked through parched lips,
please? I am unable to move and very hungry,
my last visitor abused me and I'm hurting bad,
could you spare me some food or money,
a sip of water, I'm so thirsty right now?
Expectantly I looked up into the man's eyes.

Chewing delicious bread I stared at the stranger,
the young wine had refreshed me completely
where did all this come from I wonder?
My taste-buds were in Heaven and so was I
I couldn't believe what I was hearing
I remember his lips pronounce the words;

"Shalom... Beloved...

..You're most welcome, my child," he said,
"Eat your fill, here, have another sip of wine,
your clothes are all worn, dirty and broken.
At home I have some new clean garments your size,
a warm bath and a place of safety and rest,
awaiting my dwelling-place high-up New Eden street."

That's what he said, and that's what he did for me!
Amazed I watched as out of nowhere servants arrived,
gently lifting me out of my grime and of the street,
carrying me along an all together different route,
right to the top of a most beautiful mountain hill,
halting before a mansion I didn't know could exist.

A doctor came and tended my wounds and sores
ointments soothing, smelling like fragrant herbs
a massage, gently, carefully rejuvenating me.
Years long ache disappearing, well-being arriving,
heaven on earth how could all this be for me,
when did I do anything to deserve this treatment?

A gentle knock on my door, as I lay sleeping
in a massive bedroom, adorned for royalty.
"You've been invited at The Feast tonight."
I recall this loving moment fleetingly pass by,
how lovely he looked standing there,
"and Dad said he likes to meet you as well."

I remember how confused I had been, Dad?
A party tonight, seeing Dad, who and what else?
Why is he looking after me so fantastically well?
My mind was in turmoil after all these events,
several hours ago I still lay dying in my filth,
and now..? now I was so alive and so fulfilled!

Gratitude arose like paradise restored within,
never before did I feel so much thankfulness,
I'd been rescued from a life of painful misery,
saved from the wretchedness of my existence,
restored to human dignity, loved and cared for,
deep down I knew Life had found me for good.


I hope I sparked a little hope again.

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