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Oh so you agree with her then. Because when I made this statement about justification thru works of the law


Your response was that she taught faith alone. Now you’re saying that faith alone means justification thru works of the law. So you just went in a circle there in your response.
No, I don’t agree with your interpretation of it, which I already stated and was shot down.

She taught we are saved by faith through grace alone because we all have sinned, those with faith live differently than those who don’t. Obedience to God is a consequence of salvation, not a means to it, we can’t save ourselves, sorry if you don’t seem to understand the difference. Living in grace is living in obedience Rom 6:1-3 most wrongly teach it means living for self but we can still be saved, but thats not what it means.
 
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Ellen White would’ve added that those who do come to the Father but didn’t observe the sabbath and the dietary laws would be condemned. Not sure if you were aware of this or not.
No I am not aware but, personally as a student of biblical scripture I rarely venture to other doctrines or religious groups, I still do not master the essentials.

But I know sabbathblessings is using scripture, I find no fault in her faith and beliefs in Christ. Is this really the place to conduct these interrogations about someone's beliefs?

If you would agree, we should stick to the subject of this thread, Denying Jesus.

Blessings.
 
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No, I don’t agree with your interpretation of it, which I already stated and was shot down.

She taught we are saved by faith through grace alone because we all have sinned, those with faith live differently than those who don’t. Obedience to God is a consequence of salvation, not a means to it, we can’t save ourselves, sorry if you don’t seem to understand the difference. Living in grace is living in obedience Rom 6:1-3 most wrongly teach it means living for self but we can still be saved, but thats not what it means.
Oh so now you’re saying that anyone who doesn’t observe the sabbath and the dietary laws doesn’t have faith. Because if we had faith we would observe those laws. Right? :scratch:
 
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Oh so now you’re saying that anyone who doesn’t observe the sabbath and the dietary laws doesn’t have faith. Because if we had faith we would observe those laws. Right? :scratch:
Did I write? Isa66:17 Eze 20:13 Eze 20:21 Mat 7:21-23, Rev 22:14-15 James 2:10-12 Mat 19:17-19 Isa 56:1-6 1 John 3:4 Mat 5:19-30 Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13 Heb 10:26-30 1 John 2:4

I think we have different definitions of faith and the role it plays in our salvation. If we have faith in Jesus would we do what He asks or disobey Him. Jesus said many believers will say Lord Lord at His Second Coming, but He will not know them. We have time now to turn and repent, but sadly many prefer to stay where they are John 3:19-20
 
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John 14:15 -- IF you Love Me KEEP My commandments
Ex 20:6 "Love Me and KEEP My Commandments"
John 15:14 those who Love Me - KEEP My Commandments
1 John 5:3 "THIS IS the LOVE of God , what we KEEP His Commandments"

Rev 14:12 "the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"
1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"

Eph 6:1-2 where "Honor your father and mother is the FIRST commandment with a promise" in that unit of TEN

Heb 8:6-12 it is CHRIST speaking His commandments at Sinai.
Deut 5:22 at Sinai God spoke the Ten "and added NO more"

The point is not that we should ignore all but the TEN - but the point is that the TEN are most certainly included in the Jer 31:31-34 "Law written on the heart" under the New Covenant.


Hi BobRyan,

These are great OT/NT comparison texts!

It's sad how people fight so hard to condemn God's perfect law and who are tacitly condemning the lawGiver.


The point is not that we should ignore all but the TEN - but the point is that the TEN are most certainly included in the Jer 31:31-34 "Law written on the heart" under the New Covenant.


Exactly.

God bless!

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
 
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Here is an instruction from Jesus

If a person believes all of the instructions of Jesus are for today, they will want to follow the teachings of the scribes and the Pharisees.

That could be the scribes and the Pharisees back then, or the Jewish rabbis today :heart:

Peace be with you!!


Hi Leaf473,

Please help me understand how this is supposed to relate to the opening post.

Thanks!

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
 
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Most of the issues over these subjects arise when we try to play these various terms only one way. Usually the "good" term for "me" and the "bad/evil/wrath/damnation" terms for some other person.

The fact of the matter is much easier to come to grips with. We are all comprised of both good and evil. There is simply no honest way to get around this fact by spinning ourselves as only good because, you see, that is just a common LIE. But since the heart is deceptive above all things, Jer. 17:9, what do we really expect but lies and deceptions?

WHO wants to raise their hand and admit they have an evil conscience? Hebrews 10:22. Yeah, let's hear it for the truth of an evil conscience. Any takers? Should we come before God in Christ as a liar and say it's not there?

WHO wants to say that they think evil thoughts that defile them? Mark 7:21-23, Romans 7:7-13. Yeah, let's hear it for the truth. Any takers? No, not one?

WHO wants to claim their own sorry hides are in conflict with the Holy Spirit? Gal. 5:17. Yeah, let's hear it for the truth. Any takers? No?

Now for the really earth shattering one. WHO wants to claim that the tempter, our adversary and enemy tempts us internally, in our own minds and hearts, and that our own sin is actually "of the devil"? Mark 4:15, 1 John 3:8. Yeah, that one will leave a mark on you if you admit it, but alas, tis true.

It's not easy being a truthful believer. In fact I'd dare say the evil present within exactly none of us cooperates with God in Christ one little bit, even when we are speaking the truth.

But we can walk away from the table with honesty, which I consider to be a gift from Above

When we read about the good tree and the bad tree, are we only the good tree? Uh, no. We're all actually BOTH.

When we read about building our houses on rock or sand do we always and only do the rock side? Uh, no. That never happens. We all have things that need to sink in the storm.

When we read about goats and sheep in Matt. 25, why is it we never realize that when we're not doing sheep works we're doing goat works?

See the problem?

Jesus said man shall LIVE by every Word of God. Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, Deut. 8:3

You might find that you've been missing out on half the Bible. Read the bad stuff and be thankful that God is against EVIL, even if it hurts you. Be thankful He's that way, even if you're not.


Hi BelieveitOarKnot,

I appreciate what you're saying, but I'm not seeing how you're tying this in to the opening post. Are you denying that it's possible for those who claim to know God to deny Him?

God bless!

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
 
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why do you test me?
Because you claim to know how to separate the ceremonial laws from the moral laws :)

About these laws ( other than the 10 commandments) I know of them but not know them very well since I am not Jewish.
The moral laws apply to everyone, don't they?
Earlier, you wrote
This shows us that He came to complete the law, not to get rid of it. Every part of the law is still valuable and meaningful. While Jesus fulfilled the ceremonial laws, like sacrifices and festivals, He did not abolish the moral laws.
If the moral laws from the law of Moses are still in effect, then it's very important for us to know them :heart:

If there isn't a good way to separate the moral laws from the ceremonial laws, is it possible that the Bible doesn't separate them?


But I know that some of them can be useful, I know also that some can no longer be applied, like the laws concerning the sacrifices since Jesus fulfilled them with his life, His Blood and suffering so we can obtain eternal life.
Jesus is the only way to eternal Life. This is what he wants for all of us.

John 14:6 (NKJV):
Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
 
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although broadly things of the "self" are things of the flesh a danger may be we can get trapped in checkbox-driven focus and miss the point. Anything that gets in the way of Christ is what needs to be denied regardless of what that "thing" is (even if superficially it appears wholesome). the projection of self can be things we hang on to so tightly that we can find ourselves saying "I'll do anything for you God just leave this part of my life alone". This often is connected to our identity like social status, job position, being a father/mother, husband/wife, being rich/poor, having "things", our education and the list goes on (even our sexuality which includes heterosexuality and celibacy). If we refuse to give up a certain identity to follow Christ we are refusing Christ.

Luke 14:26 tells us “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple." this is harsh language but it doesn't mean we can't love our father, mother, wife, children, etc... it means that Christ needs to come first. Preaching commandments-driven action can lead to loopholes and people missing the point (justifying putting things higher than Christ) For example with treatment towards our neighbour, the 10 commandments tell us not to steal, murder, lie, covet or sleep with their wife (maybe respect their parents too). Surprisingly, these are not that hard to keep but even if I keep those things I may still hate my neighbour (and his wife and parents). Or even if I don't hate him I may just ignore him and have no care for him.

The sum total of the law that relates to actions towards my neighbour is lacking and even if I keep them to the letter, because I have no love, their value is worthless. So Christ reveals to us a heuristic for serving him which is by loving God by way of loving others as ourselves under Christ. We can affirm this by a comparison of 1 Cor 7:19, Gal 5:6 and Gal 6:15. All these verses are talking about the same thing, they all start the same way they all use the same language concluding "what counts" and they are all written by Paul (and if you check your cross references they will all point to each other). They are in fact mirror versions of each other and all have the same meaning

1 Cor 7:19
Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts.

Gal 5:6
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

Gal 6:15
Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation.

so it is clear what doesn't "count" which is circumcision. But what does "count" is "Keeping God’s commands" AND "faith expressing itself through love" AND "the new creation". but here's the secret: they are all the same thing.

so we can conclude confidently

Keeping God’s commands = faith expressing itself through love defined through the new creation

Paul brings clarify to the ambiguity of the phrase "God's commandments" so we don't have to rip our hair out wondering what the commandments are. These verse are not in addition to God's commandments, it is tantamount to God's commandments and should be our compass on how we approach action.


Hi DamianWarS,

I believe I am in agreement with what you're saying here, but I'm uncertain how you're tying this in with the topic of this thread.

In your case, are you denying Jesus by elevating Muhammed to a higher rank in your apparently Muslim belief system? How are you a follower of Isa Al Masih (i.e. Jesus Christ), if you apparently merely accept Him as a prophet, and not as your Creator God?

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
 
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Hi Leaf473,

Please help me understand how this is supposed to relate to the opening post.

Thanks!

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
Well, in the opening post, you write
God has revealed that our love for Him is to be manifested in our obedience to Him. Jesus says, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. . . Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching." That's pretty simple, isn't it?
I take your statements to mean that if we don't follow the teachings of Jesus, do what he said to do, then we are denying him.

One of the things that Jesus said to do was to listen to the scribes and the Pharisees.

Another thing Jesus said to do was to show yourself to the priest when your skin condition improves
 
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Hi DamianWarS,

I believe I am in agreement with what you're saying here, but I'm uncertain how you're tying this in with the topic of this thread (i.e. Denying Jesus).

In your case, are you denying Jesus by elevating Muhammed to a higher rank in your belief system (i.e. Isa Al Masih)? How are you a follower of Isa Al Masih (i.e. Jesus Christ), if you merely perceive Him as a prophet, and not as your Creator God?

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
Damien can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe he is saying faith and becoming a new creation is keeping God’s commandments. I believe he is saying God’s commandments are not the Ten Commandments despite God claiming them as His commandments written by Him personally Exo 20:6 Mat 15:3–14
 
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No I am not aware but, personally as a student of biblical scripture I rarely venture to other doctrines or religious groups, I still do not master the essentials.

But I know sabbathblessings is using scripture, I find no fault in her faith and beliefs in Christ. Is this really the place to conduct these interrogations about someone's beliefs?

If you would agree, we should stick to the subject of this thread, Denying Jesus.

Blessings.
Denying Jesus is my entire point. People who worship on Sunday are being accused of “denying Jesus” in their actions according to the definition given in the OP which doesn’t make any sense at all since the very reason we worship on Sunday in the first place is to honor Him. Nobody worships Jesus to rebel against Him that makes absolutely zero sense at all. The whole reason Paul rebuked the Galatians was because they weren’t placing their faith in Christ for their salvation. Do we need to be obedient? Yes absolutely and I doubt that there’s a single person in this thread that disagrees with that statement. But Paul specifically stated in Colossians 2:16 that we are not to be judged for not keeping the new moon rituals or sabbath days. SDA advocates fail to realize that Jesus is not concerned with matters of rituals and ordinances, His focus is loving God and loving others, not what food you eat, not which day you worship, not whether or not you’re circumcised, these things mean nothing about whether or not a person loves God. The Pharisees observed all of these and their heart was far from God. That’s why they were abolished because they mean absolutely nothing. So Christ gave us freedom to love Him and worship Him in our own way, that’s what Paul is saying in Romans 14. The SDA says we have to do it according to the law otherwise we’re not saved which is incorrect. They fell into Ellen White’s errors and believed her just like the Galatians did with the Judaizers, it’s the exact same scenario. There’s nothing wrong with worshipping on Saturday, there’s nothing wrong with observing the dietary laws but if you do these things IN ORDER TO BE SAVED then you’re doing them for the exact same reason that the Galatians were being circumcised, for the purpose of being justified with God. If the SDA want to say they do these BECAUSE they’re saved then it’s not a problem until they start pointing fingers at everyone else saying you should do what we do because God commanded it. Again read Romans 14, Paul specifically said that we are not to judge others according to WHAT THEY EAT OR WHAT DAY THEY WORSHIP. That is exactly what the SDA does. So I get a little bit offended when somebody who doesn’t know what they’re talking about tells me that I’m not obeying God especially when I can back up my position with scripture and their response is that I’m not interpreting it correctly. Well my interpretation is backed by 2000 years of church teachings. If Ellen White is correct then there’s a 1900 year absence of Christ’s teachings on the earth. That presents a pretty big problem since she taught that observing the sabbath is necessary for salvation. So nobody was receiving the gospel for 1900 years until Ellen White finally came along to save everyone in the last 100 years? Nobody was being saved for the first 1900 years of Christ’s church? The gates of hell prevailed over His church for the first 1900 years until finally Ellen White came along to save what was left of it? No, Jesus’ plan to spread the gospel to all nations didn’t fail for the first 1900 years.
 
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Many greatly misunderstand the teachings of Ellen White, she has stated there will be many non-Sabbath keeping people who will be saved. Many did not have bibles in the dark ages and God is not going to judge them the same way those who do now. We are judged based on our knowledge.

God wiped out whole cities and all of humanity for their disobedience. Do you think God loves us more than they? That we will be held to a lower standard than they will? He plainly tells us we won’t be Heb 10:26-30 Mat 7:21-23 Rev 22:14-15 but gives us every opportunity to obey Him though His power John 14:15-18 by our love and faith 1 John 5:3 Rom 3:31 John 14:15 Exo 20:6

When people went away from God, God raised up messengers and prophets to bring people back to His Word, this is a pattern from God over and over throughout the Bible because He loves us so much.

And this is what happened

2 Cor 3: 15 And the Lord God of their fathers sent warnings to them by His messengers, rising up early and sending them, because He had compassion on His people and on His dwelling place. 16 But they mocked the messengers of God, despised His words, and scoffed at His prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against His people, till there was no remedy.

God uses ordinary people to bring us back to His Word when everyone goes away from it. EGW never wrote the Sabbath commandment, God did with His own finger and placed this commandment in the same category as only worshipping Him and not murdering our neighbor. God gave us Ten Commandments, not nine Exo34:28 Deut 4:13 and no where does it say we can pick the commandments that seem right to us or what everyone else is following. Depending on our feelings is what leads people down the wrong path Jer 17:9 why we have God’s Word that is to be the light to our path Psa 119:105. The Sabbath commandment has never been abrogated in scripture. Col 2:14-17KJV if one really wanted Truth would clearly see Paul is not countermanding God or Jesus Mat 24:20 Isa 66:23 as the context clearly shows and the warning of Paul’s writings 2 Peter 3:16.
 
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Many greatly misunderstand the teachings of Ellen White, she has stated there will be many non-Sabbath keeping people who will be saved. Many did not have bibles in the dark ages and God is not going to judge them the same way those who do now. We are judged based on our knowledge.
As I’ve already proven just because she said something doesn’t mean that she didn’t turn right around and contradict herself. Unfortunately her writings aren’t like scripture they do contradict themselves.
 
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As I’ve already proven just because she said something doesn’t mean that she didn’t turn right around and contradict herself. Unfortunately her writings aren’t like scripture they do contradict themselves.
That’s what people do with Paul’s writings too when they don;t really know them and just pluck out a verse here or there
 
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Did I write? Isa66:17 Eze 20:13 Eze 20:21 Mat 7:21-23, Rev 22:14-15 James 2:10-12 Mat 19:17-19 Isa 56:1-6 1 John 3:4 Mat 5:19-30 Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13 Heb 10:26-30 1 John 2:4

I think we have different definitions of faith and the role it plays in our salvation. If we have faith in Jesus would we do what He asks or disobey Him. Jesus said many believers will say Lord Lord at His Second Coming, but He will not know them. We have time now to turn and repent, but sadly many prefer to stay where they are John 3:19-20
No I don’t that think we have different definitions of faith you’re just redefining the word on the fly because the proper definition is posing a problem with Ellen White’s claim of salvation by “faith alone” that you quoted. I say this because I happen to know for a fact that you believe that believers can lose their salvation which means that faith doesn’t automatically result in obedience and you know that. Nobody receives salvation without having faith and if they can lose their salvation then obviously people who have faith can still be disobedient. This is why I can refute your posts over and over and over because you just twist everything over and over and over leaving errors all over the place. Your original reason for quoting Ellen White saying that we’re saved by faith alone was to refute the idea that she taught justification by works of the law. Then when I exposed that error by quoting her specifically saying that people who don’t keep the dietary laws are condemned by God you had to redefine what faith alone means which only resulted in a circular argument that now faith alone means that people will obey God’s laws which brought us right back to justification thru works of the law which was what you were originally refuting when you posted her quote in the first place. So I said she taught justification by works of the law, you said no she taught faith alone, I quoted where she taught justification by works of the law then you redefined what faith alone means by saying it means that people who have faith will obey the law. So we ended up right back at where we started in the first place because you didn’t want to admit that I was right the first time.

So since you know full well that people can lose their salvation and nobody receives salvation without having faith in the first place then you know full well that people who have faith can be disobedient otherwise they wouldn’t be able to lose their salvation.
 
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Denying Jesus is my entire point. People who worship on Sunday are being accused of “denying Jesus” in their actions according to the definition given in the OP which doesn’t make any sense at all since the very reason we worship on Sunday in the first place is to honor Him. Nobody worships Jesus to rebel against Him that makes absolutely zero sense at all. The whole reason Paul rebuked the Galatians was because they weren’t placing their faith in Christ for their salvation. Do we need to be obedient? Yes absolutely and I doubt that there’s a single person in this thread that disagrees with that statement. But Paul specifically stated in Colossians 2:16 that we are not to be judged for not keeping the new moon rituals or sabbath days. SDA advocates fail to realize that Jesus is not concerned with matters of rituals and ordinances, His focus is loving God and loving others, not what food you eat, not which day you worship, not whether or not you’re circumcised, these things mean nothing about whether or not a person loves God. The Pharisees observed all of these and their heart was far from God. That’s why they were abolished because they mean absolutely nothing. So Christ gave us freedom to love Him and worship Him in our own way, that’s what Paul is saying in Romans 14. The SDA says we have to do it according to the law otherwise we’re not saved which is incorrect. They fell into Ellen White’s errors and believed her just like the Galatians did with the Judaizers, it’s the exact same scenario. There’s nothing wrong with worshipping on Saturday, there’s nothing wrong with observing the dietary laws but if you do these things IN ORDER TO BE SAVED then you’re doing them for the exact same reason that the Galatians were being circumcised, for the purpose of being justified with God. If the SDA want to say they do these BECAUSE they’re saved then it’s not a problem until they start pointing fingers at everyone else saying you should do what we do because God commanded it. Again read Romans 14, Paul specifically said that we are not to judge others according to WHAT THEY EAT OR WHAT DAY THEY WORSHIP. That is exactly what the SDA does. So I get a little bit offended when somebody who doesn’t know what they’re talking about tells me that I’m not obeying God especially when I can back up my position with scripture and their response is that I’m not interpreting it correctly. Well my interpretation is backed by 2000 years of church teachings. If Ellen White is correct then there’s a 1900 year absence of Christ’s teachings on the earth. That presents a pretty big problem since she taught that observing the sabbath is necessary for salvation. So nobody was receiving the gospel for 1900 years until Ellen White finally came along to save everyone in the last 100 years? Nobody was being saved for the first 1900 years of Christ’s church? The gates of hell prevailed over His church for the first 1900 years until finally Ellen White came along to save what was left of it? No, Jesus’ plan to spread the gospel to all nations didn’t fail for the first 1900 years.
I never accused anyone, many who worship on sunday do so to follow the others who do so. Many were told wrongfully it was o.k. but the fact is it is not what GOD said. No one has the right to change God's laws. for the rest where you discuss Ellen white I will not comment as I do not know her work and is is not part of this discussion on this thread. I believe there is a section on the forum for SDA , if you have questions why not ask them directly.
 
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Oh so now you’re saying that anyone who doesn’t observe the sabbath and the dietary laws doesn’t have faith. Because if we had faith we would observe those laws. Right? :scratch:
The just live by faith and this faith establishes the Law. No need to scratch your head as if it is anything other than that. Because It isn't
 
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No I don’t that think we have different definitions of faith you’re just redefining the word on the fly because the proper definition is posing a problem with Ellen White’s claim of salvation by “faith alone” that you quoted. I say this because I happen to know for a fact that you believe that believers can lose their salvation which means that faith doesn’t automatically result in obedience and you know that. Nobody receives salvation without having faith and if they can lose their salvation then obviously people who have faith can still be disobedient. This is why I can refute your posts over and over and over because you just twist everything over and over and over leaving errors all over the place. Your original reason for quoting Ellen White saying that we’re saved by faith alone was to refute the idea that she taught justification by works of the law. Then when I exposed that error by quoting her specifically saying that people who don’t keep the dietary laws are condemned by God you had to redefine what faith alone means which only resulted in a circular argument that now faith alone means that people will obey God’s laws which brought us right back to justification thru works of the law which was what you were originally refuting when you posted her quote in the first place. So I said she taught justification by works of the law, you said no she taught faith alone, I quoted where she taught justification by works of the law then you redefined what faith alone means by saying it means that people who have faith will obey the law. So we ended up right back at where we started in the first place because you didn’t want to admit that I was right the first time.

So since you know full well that people can lose their salvation and nobody receives salvation without having faith in the first place then you know full well that people who have faith can be disobedient otherwise they wouldn’t be able to lose their salvation.
You beleive we can have faith and not be obedient, but I am going to have to refer you back to the scriptures.

Q.Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith?
A. Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

Why Jesus in His own Words said:

Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”

We are saved by grace through faith Eph 2:8. As stated obedience to God is a consequence of salvation Rev 14:12, not a means to it. why we should examine ourselves are we in the faith 2 Cor 13:5. It’s why the Ten Commandments are so important. It can’t save us, only Christ can, but it shows us our sins Rom 7:7 Mat 5:19-30 Rom 3:20 and our unrighteousness and our need for Jesus our Savior and shows us His righteousness Psa 119:172. If we cover our sins instead of confessing and forsaking them, we cannot prosper Pro 28:13 why repentance is such an important part of the gospel message, our salvation is from sin. Mat 1:21
 
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Romans 14, Paul specifically said that we are not to judge others according to WHAT THEY EAT OR WHAT DAY THEY WORSHIP.
Not in respect to the word of God it doesn't. The context is about differing opinions and not the word of God. That is what verse 1 states SPECIFICALLY. And verse two collaborates with this premise.
How do we know? Because it mentions only eating herbs. Nowhere in scripture does it ever state that we can only eat herbs. Though an opinion can be derived from the fact that fruit, nuts, and grains were the original diet. And the fact that Daniel only ate such and He was the better for it.


Rom 14:1 Now receive the one who is weak in the faith, and do not have disputes over differing opinions.
Rom 14:2 One person believes in eating everything, but the weak person eats only vegetables.
Rom 14:3 The one who eats everything must not despise the one who does not, and the one who abstains must not judge the one who eats everything, for God has accepted him.
 
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