Cis.jd
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I'm not sure what to think when someone makes a statement like this.
Do you mean that other texts are just as informative as the Cannon? Are just as true as the canonized scripture?
How about texts that were written before the flood, yet have been preserved until today and were quoted in the bible?
If so, then, what do you say about "The Book of Enoch"? This text parallels the biblical canon and was, for some time considered part of the canon.
The Book of Enoch (BoE) is very detailed and exacting in where demons come from and that, according to the text of the BoE, they cannot be anything but evil.
Many dismiss the BoE. They say it's not canon so it is not worthy of mention. However, they will quote definitions from Websters Dictionary, writings of Plato, Socrates, and even Darwin, as being solid truth..
So, I guess it is important to expand on what you mean by "everything is not in the bible".
I am quite certain that demons are "not of God". Read these:
1 Timothy 4:1 New International Version (NIV)
4 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
James 2:19 New International Version (NIV)
19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
1 Corinthians 10:20-21 New International Version (NIV)
20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons.
Human Spirits? I don't believe in "human spirits" I believe that every human has a soul.. and you are correct, they are certainly not all of God.
As for scripture about ghosts.. Check these out... when Christ was walking on the water and the disciples were afraid.. Notice, Christ did not say " don't be silly there is no such thing as ghosts". He simply tells them that it is Him and "don't be afraid".
Matthew 14:25-27 New International Version (NIV)
25 Shortly before dawn Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake. 26 When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. “It’s a ghost,” they said, and cried out in fear.
27 But Jesus immediately said to them: “Take courage! It is I. Don’t be afraid.”
Then there is this:
Luke 24:37-39 New International Version (NIV)
37 They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. 38 He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? 39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”
Do you not think that the rich man would have gone somewhere else, if he could have, in the story of Lazarus?
Luke 16:19-31
It has nothing to do with the canon, i'm saying not everything is documented. We don't have anything of much detail on certain things which includes ghosts, the planets in our solarsystem, Dinosaurs, dynasties in other countries, and even Satan and his origins isn't completely grounded, as well as the list of the canon isn't mentioned in the Bible.. never the less, we know these are facts.
Just because the Bible doesn't have any straight forward details or none at all doesn't mean something is false, it's just not talked about.
As for spirits and souls. I believe we have both. We are body, soul, and spirit (a trinity) these are the essences of life. Spirit being our energy or actual life force, while the Soul gives us an identity.. it's what brings out our morality, compassion, emotions, and just simply what defines us internally as an individual.
For you last part in reference to Luke 16. That is what we call Purgatory.. us catholics are not settled whether purgatory is a place or state, there are a few of us who think Purgatory like the Orthodox view of limbo .
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