Demonic possession vs. demonic attack

[Amatire]

actually julie thats a very good point... people normally just quote the "resist the devil and he will flee" part but in order to do that you must first ensure that you are submitted to God.

that is a daily thing, like taking up your cross. when we live our lives many of the things we do can separate us from God especially judgements and unforgiveness.. when we step out of God's grace we have stepped into Judgement again, and satan has rights over us there, so concievably we can be open to attack and the building of strongholds within us if we do not then turn back to God's grace and submit. Then we can resist the devil and he will flee because he has no power in grace.

 

[Dee-Dee]

Hello all, i hope u don't mind me jumping right in.

Hey julie, i have that book. Very good book.

U should chek out Whatdeonds cn do osaints by merill f Unger

and The handbook for spiritual warfare by Dr. ed Mirphy. I believe this is the better o the three..

I agree amatire. What does your signiture mean? the one that's runnig across the bttom that is.

 

[Amatire]

hi dee dee

my signature is a quote in Quenya which is one of tolkien's elvish languages.. it fits with my nick on here...

amatire means "hope"

and the quote says "hope, she will never fail she will always find a way" it isnt something that tolkien wrote himself, it was written as part of a poem by someone who had studied the language....

you can find it I think on this website... www.elvish.org/gwaith/language.htm

(if I were a Lord of the Rings character, that's what my name would be.. and I would be Aragorn's sister - seeing as one of his names was "estel" which is a sindarin word for "hope" hehe... )

 

[Thunderchild]

Of course, the first post on this thread shows that Job shunned evil.

Is there anyone being a Christian who once or twice failed to shun evil? Does unrepented sin leave a window of opportunity for a demonic attack/possession? (Or, more likely oppression, which experientially might not be so different from possession.) Those who walk in dark places for the sake of the name of Christ aren't going to be quickly dismissing the possibility of a demonic possession in Christians... for all that those who theorise from the comfort of a pew will declare it impossible.

 

[Amatire]

yet again thunderchild your wisdom shines through! Great post! I agree we often theorise about things from the safety of the pew which those on the frontline would laugh at if they heard us because to them the answer is obvious...!

 

[Thunderchild]

Amatire> Not so much laugh as cry, when the initial outraged fury wears off. There is this all but irresistable urge for calling down fire from heaven - in the first few seconds.

 

[Julie]

We have to be careful in our spiritual warfare not to be lifted up with pride. An excellent example of the use of humility in a battle is found in 1 Sam. 25:23-31. Abigail humbled herself before David and his men, and charged herself with Nabal's iniquity. She was not the cause of David's attack, but by her humility she certainly stopped him and delivered her household.

 

 

1 Timothy 3
6   Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

 

[wblastyn]

Do u honestly think the powerful drive behind greed is human and not demonic? What about rage? have u ever exprienced it of known of any christians close to u that have experienced it? Do u think that it's a mere human reaction? What about godly people who molest children? Is that just them giving in to themselves?

Yes, humans are greedy, demons don't make you greedy.

Rage comes from anger, and it depends how you act on your anger if it's a sin or not. Anger is an emotion.

Don't know anyone who experienced it sorry, but have read testamonies.

Yes, humans react to their emotions, they can control how they act.

Demons, Satan, whatever do not make us do things, they can tempt us but never force us (unless possessed, but that's because you opened a door for them) to do things. Humans chose to sin.