Democrats now 'Party of the Rich'

[Steve Petersen]

Great news! Now let's hear the vitriol.

Democrats now represent 57% of the 4.8 million households that had incomes of $200,000 or more in 2008. In 2005, Republicans represented 55% of those affluent households.

 

[DaisyDay]

The worm turns and the pendulum swings? Who knows what will become of the parties.

 

[Grizzly]

LOL - so now we have rich people fighting to pay taxes for the health and welfare of poor people.....and the poor people are up in arms about it!

Nice.

 

[SOAD]

LOL - so now we have rich people fighting to pay taxes for the health and welfare of poor people.....and the poor people are up in arms about it!

Nice.

excellent observation

Shall we consider your post vitriol?

 

[sinner/SAVED]

It must be the result of all that great public education....

 

[Chazemataz]

Actually, Democrats and Republicans are now much more divided when it comes to social issues, age, religion and racial structure.
Maybe twenty years ago it was true that "Rich people are Republicans, poor people are Democrats" but just look at the tea parties and tell me if everyone-heck, anyone- there looks rich or business-like.

Republicans= white, Protestant, Southern, the elderly
Democrats= basically everyone else

 

[blueapplepaste]

LOL - so now we have rich people fighting to pay taxes for the health and welfare of poor people.....and the poor people are up in arms about it!

Nice.

Hahahaha!! So really when Dems support raising taxes on those making over $200k, they support raising their own taxes so that others can have a tax break.

If anything, these stats just make Republicans look greedy and selfish with thier policies.

 

[chaz345]

Republicans= white, Protestant, Southern, the elderly
Democrats= basically everyone else

The elderly? You really need to check your demographics a little. The elderly are one of the most solidly Dem voting blocs out there. If the elderly were predominantly Repub, do you think the AARP could be nearly as liberal as it is in what it advocates?

 

[Gawron]

Are rich people "fighting" to pay more in taxes? You really believe that?

In addition, what are the new "rich" actually fighting for?

How Would Pelosi's Newly Proposed Value-Added Tax Impact US Manufacturers and Consumers?

Quote:

Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi has introduced the idea of implementing a European style "Value Added Tax" or VAT in the US to help cover the Health Care bill. On PBS's "The Charlie Rose Show", Speaker Pelosi said that a New Value-Added Tax (VAT) is "on the table" to help the U.S. address its fiscal liabilities.

Speaker Pelosi has not fully explained her plan or how Middle America will not pay for these taxes.

End Quote. Link: http://mfrtech.com/articles/2619.html​

 

[chaz345]

Are rich people "fighting" to pay more in taxes? You really believe that?

Nope because most of the ones doing the fighting are either the bottom, who pay no taxes anyway or are so far above $200k per year that it's all sheltered anyway.

 

[Chazemataz]

The elderly? You really need to check your demographics a little. The elderly are one of the most solidly Dem voting blocs out there. If the elderly were predominantly Repub, do you think the AARP could be nearly as liberal as it is in what it advocates?

Then why did they overwhemingly vote for McCain in 2008? They were the only age demographic to do so. In addition, look at any poll you want- Gallup, Rassumesen, Pew Report, Pollster, ABC- consistently the vast majority of elderly people are Republican.

That's not to say that there aren't elderly Democrats; there are a lot, but they are outnumbered by at least 3 to 1.

 

[Billnew]

Republicans= white, Protestant, Southern, the elderly
Democrats= basically everyone else

I am white, but thats the only way I fit in your listing of Republican.
I don't believe it is so cut and dry anymore.

Are rich people "fighting" to pay more in taxes? You really believe that?

In addition, what are the new "rich" actually fighting for?

http://mfrtech.com/articles/2619.html​

The liberals want the rich to pay more taxes, but other rich people, they make sure there is loopholes so they can shelter their money from being taken.
Why not eliminate the loopholes? Make sure every person pays thier fair share, without tax shelters. Republican and Democrat and everything in between.
Stop making it a game, who can find more ways to protect their money,
if you do -A- you won't have to pay tax on.-B-.

 

[sinner/SAVED]

Republicans= white, Protestant, Southern, the elderly
Democrats= basically everyone else

I am white, Protestant, Southern. I am definitely not, nor have I ever been or plan to be, Republican.

I am a faith-based voter.....

 

[JoyJuice]

Great news! Now let's hear the vitriol.

Taking what has transpired lately Steve what does this mean to you...and I ask you to think it through.

 

[JoyJuice]

The elderly? You really need to check your demographics a little. The elderly are one of the most solidly Dem voting blocs out there. If the elderly were predominantly Repub, do you think the AARP could be nearly as liberal as it is in what it advocates?

Maybe AARP tends to be "liberal" because "conservatives" think Medicare is a social program and fought tooth and nail against it and therefore those of the AARP age thinks one side does not have their best interest at heart at a rather crucial point in their lives.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Which party is it that put forward the Baucus health care plan?

On Tuesday, the Congressional Budget Office director told Mr. Baucus's committee that its plan to cut $123 billion from Medicare Advantage—the program that gives almost one-fourth of seniors private health-insurance options—will result in lower benefits and some 2.7 million people losing this coverage.

 

[reverend C]

Which party is it that put forward the Baucus health care plan?

when i sold health insurance, the medicare advantage programs were widely considered to be a very bad deal for seniors, as it was the only medicare "supplement" that required the senior to opt out of medicare altogether and be solely dependent on the private provider for their care, and it was extremely difficult to get back into the medicare program once you had opted out, if you could do it at all. therefore, the "advantage" senior was at the mercy of their health care carrier. it should be disadvantaged, as it is the perfect mouse trap.
with that said, i know i speak for many democrats and independents that are very disappointed with the baucus bill. it doesn't go nearly far enough.

 

[JoyJuice]

Which party is it that put forward the Baucus health care plan?

"Nevertheless, President Obama, starting during the campaign, has promised to cut Medicare Advantage.
Humana, the most Medicare Advantage-heavy company, with 1.5 million Medicare members and $1.1 billion in annual Medicare-related profits, has been a question mark on Wall Street since Obama's election because of fears that its golden goose may be cooked."

FORBES

Wow....so the cuts are being restructured and will hurt corporations like Humana's 1.1 billion profits or "golden goose" as the article puts it....I don't understand why that may hurt your feelings?

 

[rambot]

Which party is it that put forward the Baucus health care plan?

On Tuesday, the Congressional Budget Office director told Mr. Baucus's committee that its plan to cut $123 billion from Medicare Advantage—the program that gives almost one-fourth of seniors private health-insurance options—will result in lower benefits and some 2.7 million people losing this coverage.
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That sounds like something that would make a republican happy?!?

 

[Fantine]

It might be more accurate to track median incomes of Democrats and Republicans.

One possible reason for this stat: The most liberal states are on the coasts. The highest salaries are on the coasts. The highest costs of living are on the coasts.

I lived in metro NY for many years, as well as three less expensive states, and I can say with absolute conviction that earning $200K in NY or California or Massachusetts is probably like earning $100-$125K in many other places.

So sure, they earn $200K on paper, but are they getting $200K worth of value from it?