Brother "Sdowney717",
Christians are always safe and secure because they by definition believe (Matthew 24:13). There are those however, who formerly believed but have fallen away (Matthew 24:10; Luke 8:13). There is a third group who never believed. Some in this group have gone through the motions but never truly trusted in Christ.
Keep the faith in Jesus.
In Christ!
I have no problem with that, however these apostates are not real genuine 'Christians'.
They are following Satan not Jesus, so this demonstrates they are not born again and so have no anointing from the Holy Spirit to know the truth. Fact is Paul say they refuse to love the truth and so be saved.
People who follow Satan are not the saved elect of Christ, if your not elect then your 'faith' is in a false Christ who can not save you since obviously false Christs are not of God, their mission from Satan is to deceive and lead astray, that is to cause to depart people away from Truth. When the Spirit says that in the end times people will depart from the truth, that does not mean they were saved earlier. Heb says beware lest you have in you an evil heart of unbelief since only those who believe are saved and those who have no faith are not.
Heb 4
1 Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it.
2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them;
but the word which they heard did not profit them,
not being mixed with faith in those who heard
it.
3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:
“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’”
And Heb 3
12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God;
13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called“Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end,
15 while it is said:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”
16 For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed,
was it not all who came out of Egypt,
led by Moses?
17 Now with whom was He angry forty years?
Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness?
18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey?
19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
'Holding fast your confidence to the end', simply that those who believe do hold fast their confidence to the end, they continue to believe. And those who depart the faith do not believe. This shows again they are not born of God, since that which is born of God overcomes the world.
A person can not continue in faith if they are not the good seed planted by the Son of Man.
1 John 5New King James Version (NKJV)
1 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him.
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.
5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
Clearly an apostle here is telling you that those born of God overcome the world.
So by logical sane understanding, those not born of God will not overcome the world and are the bad seed planted by the devil, the tares among Christ's wheat. And if they are surrounded by the truth in a church, yet depart from the faith because of an evil heart of unbelief, then they are not born of God and that must mean they never were born of God.
They would have feigned belief, but in the sight of those continuing to believe, depart in unbelief when hard times come, as the sower parable so states.
Matthew 13
The Parable of the Sower Explained
18 “Therefore hear the parable of the sower: 19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand
it, then the wicked
one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. 20 But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. 22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful.
23 But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands
it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”
The question you may ask is why do they understand it?
Well a man can receive nothing unless it is given to him from heaven.
Every good and perfect gift comes down from above from the Father of Lights with whom there is no variation due to change.
Revelation knowledge of Christ comes from the Father, it is the Father who has lead those that believe to Christ, Jesus said you can not come to the Father unless the Father in heaven draw you. Man in their natural state draw back from the Light (Christ the light of the world) and do not come to Him because their deeds are evil, but he who does the truth comes to the light that their deeds may be clearly seen that they have been done in God.
John 6
34 Then they said to Him, “Lord, give us this bread always.”
35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
v39, God's will is all of those God has given to Christ as believers, Christ will lose not a single one of them.
v40 God's will is everyone who believes are granted eternal life.
John 6
61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, “Does this offend you? 62
What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before?
63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and
they are life.
64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him.
65 And He said,“Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”
66 From that
time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.
67 Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?”
68 But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.
69 Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
The flesh profits nothing, you are not born of the will of the flesh, not born of the will of man, if you had received Christ, you had been born of God. No natural man can receive the things of the Holy Spirit, they are old wine skins which will burst if new wine is poured into them. God must create you a new wine skin first, (regeneration first), then He pours the Holy Spirit into you (indwells you).
65 And He said,“Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”
Christ then asks the 12 if they will also depart, the answer is telling!
They have understood the message from God being granted to come to Christ, the Holy Spirit has enabled them to know the truth, they confess Jesus to be the Christ.
The ones who depart from the Truth (Christ), are by Christ's admission here in v65, not been granted to come to Christ by the Father. So they are not called, chosen and therefore have no belief in Christ so show then no faith in Him.
