DeLay Pledges Contempt Charge for Terri Judge

[aeroz19]

Yes, this is sort of a violation of state's rights. But I think that when the state violates individual rights, the congress has the right to intervene and protect individual rights.

The default should be life. If you want to die should you become incapacitated, put that in your will. The rest of us should not have to worry and fear the outcome should we become incapacitated before writing our wills.

The default should be life!!! Gee wiz people, where's you brains!

 

[Vylo]

Well, being a democrat and all, I favor federal rights. And I can see that republicans are seeing that it can be a very good thing as well .

 

[Harpuia]

Holy smokes. Have the roles been reversed?

The Republicans are suddenly the good guys? Myeh, every dog has his day.

 

[santalucia]

I'm no expert on Florida state law, but I'm almost certain that the process of impeaching a state judge is done at the state level....so why does Congress need to get involved? Is ALL of Florida, which mind you, voted Bush for two elections in a row, so screwed up as to let this alleged monstrous judge make his illegal rulings for the last decade on this matter?

It is the Fla legislature that is about to impeach Greer. How do you propose the electorate of Fla not "let" this insane judge make his rulings, other than through their legislative branch, which is in fact happening? And since you are so concerned about Federal branches overruling states, where is your outcry on abortion, affirmative action, striking down sodomy laws and death penalty laws, gay marriage rulings etc ? All examples of Federal judges running amok and trampling states' rights.

 

[santalucia]

No, actually I mean the Supreme Court that allowed Bush to go into office, that allows dogs to be used in traffic stops, that allowed publically-financed vouchers to be used for religious schools, etc. etc. And sorry, I don't see allowing consenting adults of the same gender to have sex as being a particularly liberal position. More of a libertarian decision, but also a conservative decision since it reduces federal and state government power, which is a pillar of conservative belief. But nice try. Maybe you should go back to pasting fake news from fake news sites.

Your snide comments aside, just because you don't like the news, doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

[Vylo]

I don't know if the judge is out of whack or the laws are out of whack, but the law should always default to preserving human life, and in cases of euthanasia, the burden of proof should fall upon those desiring the euthanasia. I can't repeat this enough.

 

[Harpuia]

I don't know if the judge is out of whack or the laws are out of whack, but the law should always default to preserving human life, and in cases of euthanasia, the burden of proof should fall upon those desiring the euthanasia. I can't repeat this enough.

Vylo, you've just gotten your first taste to see what the side of the right-wing has to deal with. Hope you enjoy the temporary stay.

 

[CaDan]

Exactly, And he can face charges for it. LOCK HIM UP !!!!! Put him in the same cell as Mikey.

*sniff*

Does anybody else here smell an abuse of process claim?

 

[aeroz19]

I don't know if the judge is out of whack or the laws are out of whack, but the law should always default to preserving human life, and in cases of euthanasia, the burden of proof should fall upon those desiring the euthanasia. I can't repeat this enough.

.... Marry me?

 

[brinny]

NewsMax
Carl Limbacher
3/18/05

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay pledged Friday to hold Florida state judge George Greer in contempt of Congress for ignoring a congressional subpoena for Terri Schiavo's testimony, saying, "No little judge sitting in a state district court in Florida is going to usurp the authority of Congress."

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Amen.

 

[brinny]

*sniff*

Does anybody else here smell an abuse of process claim?

no.

 

[jsn112]

NewsMax
Carl Limbacher
3/18/05

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay pledged Friday to hold Florida state judge George Greer in contempt of Congress for ignoring a congressional subpoena for Terri Schiavo's testimony, saying, "No little judge sitting in a state district court in Florida is going to usurp the authority of Congress."

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Just wondering...what will result of this contempt of Congress? Will a subhuman such as judge Greer lose his seat, jail, or what? Anyone know?

 

[Marklet12]

It is the Fla legislature that is about to impeach Greer. How do you propose the electorate of Fla not "let" this insane judge make his rulings, other than through their legislative branch, which is in fact happening? And since you are so concerned about Federal branches overruling states, where is your outcry on abortion, affirmative action, striking down sodomy laws and death penalty laws, gay marriage rulings etc ? All examples of Federal judges running amok and trampling states' rights.

Oh I'm sorry? Is this a death penalty/gay marriage/sodomy thread? Or is it about Terry Schiavo? MAybe I haven't brought those up because they AREN'T ABOUT THE TOPIC AT HAND?

BTW, the electorate of Floridia, if you're talking about voters and a majority, support removing Schiavo's tube. If the FL legislature is impeaching Greer, GREAT. I have no problem with that. Funny how it's happening now, a few weeks too late, when Greer, by your account, has been violating the law for YEARS.

 

[Voegelin]

The Federal government HAS gotten involved. The case was brought up to the US Supreme Court, and they refused to see it. This means that they didn't find the evidence compelling enough to require reexamination, and last I heard, the Supreme Court was not overflowing with liberals.

Unless they comment SCOTUS refusing a case means nothing.

There are only two conservatives on the court. Yes, I know, 7 were nominated by Republicans.

Such is the nature of power. If given it will, most often, be used. As Justice Scalia said this week, the idea of a "living constitution" is seductive. To my knowlege, there never has been a liberal who, once on the bench, decided the courts and Federal government have too much power.

As Eisenhower found out with Warren and Brennen and Reagan's team found out with Kennedy, there are Republicans who, given the virtually unlimited power to make law from the bench cannot resist.

Democrats never even try to resist. They dive right in substituting their political opinions for the law of the land.

 

[night2day]

I'm no expert on Florida state law, but I'm almost certain that the process of impeaching a state judge is done at the state level....so why does Congress need to get involved?

Why would any branch of government need to directly balance another unless that branch was overtly abusing their power? The links to the site indicating all the Florida state laws Judge Greer had broken in order to continue this sharade are already posted time and again.

Least of all is the fact that under to Florida Statute 744.474(11) Michael Schiavo is acting illegally as Terri's guardian because of a conflict of interest due to living with and fathering children with another woman. Adultry is considered a misdemenor within Florida. If the law was truley upheld, Micheal Shiavo would not be her guardian and would have been dropped along time ago.

Mr. Schiavo should be removed as Terri’s guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(13) for failure to comply with the guardianship report. He should be removed as Terri’s guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(14) for failure to file annual guardianship reports in a timely manner.

And, he should be removed as Terri’s guardian pursuant to Florida Statute 744.474(18) because Michael’s adulterous relationship (which is a misdemeanor under Florida law) with another woman ought to disqualify Michael as a suitable guardian for Terri as the interest which Michael said (in malpractice trial court proceedings) he had toward Terri is directed to another woman who is not his wife and has two children by said other woman of whom he is the father.

And that, as they say, is just the tip of the iceburg.

Never mind the others involved in the case who have ties with one another. George Felos being a former BoD member and stepping down only weeks before Terri, a healthy disabled woman, was moved to the hospice. However, Terri is neither dead nor dying unless she is denied the basic necessities we all are (food and water) and does not belong in a hospice. That....is outright Medicare fruad.

George Felos has ties to the pro-euthanasia movement and a rather staunch activist.

Felos also has ties to the Director of the clinic he was a memeber of the BoD of to which Terri was moved to.

The Director of the clinic has worked and knows Judge Greer from several years back.

Incidently, one has to wonder about the hospice she's in too. Especially since it's one Felos was a former BoD member and Judge Greer knows the director. If anything occured within Terrri's favor...would it even be allowed to be reported? It's too controlled an enviornment.

So basically you have a disabled woman a husband has locked away from the world for his own reasons and will not allow the world at large to see what's what. The judge and the husband picks the specialists that give her quick examinations. However, they are debated and disagreed with many other specialists who have also examined Terri...this time at length. However, their testimony is usually dismissed in favor of the husband's desires.

If the husband had nothing to hide, if Terri truley was brain dead, then why doesn't he just show the world it is so and be done with it? Allow the truth to come out and cease the cowerdice.

Is ALL of Florida, which mind you, voted Bush for two elections in a row...

And that enters into the discussion how? In what way?

 

[night2day]

Just wondering...what will result of this contempt of Congress? Will a subhuman such as judge Greer lose his seat, jail, or what? Anyone know?

Would certainly be fine with me if he lost his seat and searved jail time for abusing power.

Too many judges in this country are power-hungry as is.

 

[night2day]

Funny how it's happening now, a few weeks too late, when Greer, by your account, has been violating the law for YEARS...

Strange how s--l--o--w the entire process seems to be until everything is left until the last minute, eh?

 

[Gunny]

Yes, Court things are slow.

 

[drboyd]

Well, if anybody in American would know about contempt for the judicial process, it'd be Tom DeLay...

It's hard to believe he's actually done something resembling the actions of a decent human being...

 

[Hortysir]

State's rights are overshadowed by federal rights. Congress says they want to "investigate" the situation... and they can only conduct a successful "investigation" if they can subpeona those involved to consequently stop the pulling of the feeding tube. So the judge oversteped his boundaries by ignoring the subpeona.

This sounds alot like the thinking that started a little war back in the 1860's!!
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