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I think those who employ the phrase mean to say God is not controlled by time, not limited by time, something like that. I guess it's up to them to explain what they mean.
But, just to be clear, not all theists would say God is outside time. I would agree it's a meaningless phrase.
I like to think of God as being in eternal existence, with our universe being a kind of spherical, physical displacement within His eternal being.
Are you saying god exists outside of all events in life? What is the point of him then if he does not even exist in our dimension/universe whatever?
I think you can see why I am so confused.
I don't know if I like your phrasing. It's a bit too speculative - too much a word salad. But, what you say sounds similar to panentheism:
Panentheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I always find myself riding the fence on panentheism. I can't totally dismiss it, yet can't totally accept it.
A being cannot control something within that something? If I am inside a machine, is it impossible to affect how that machine is run?
The existence of those people are still in time, they just went backwards in time. Unless they stopped existing for a time, and then came back into existence.
How long did your God wait until before creating time?If the machine is made by you for a purpose, you probably don't want to interfere its running even you can.
God creates time. And time works fine.
I don't agree with the definition of eternity being a noun or time when it comes to the Absolute I AM.
The Trinity facilitates the Fathers escape from the inherent fetors of personality absolutism. The Sons of God do function in time. God the Supreme is God evolving in Time and Space.
You can't divide infinity; mathematically it's undefined and meaningless, so it's not time.
I don't know if I like your phrasing. It's a bit too speculative - too much a word salad. But, what you say sounds similar to panentheism:
Panentheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I always find myself riding the fence on panentheism. I can't totally dismiss it, yet can't totally accept it.
The time status of God the Absolute is 0. His created beings who think sequentially are conscious of what we call time but its us that does the measuring, but we would be measuring the circle of Eternity, Infinity, where would we start on the circle and where would we stop to get a time measurement?
Remember, "within him we live, move and have our being."
It means that He exists on another plane or dimension of existence
If the machine is made by you for a purpose, you probably don't want to interfere its running even you can.
Consider that verb you used which I put in bold.
That word is an action. It's a temporal action. It implies subjection to time. First there is the decision to act, then there is the act itself and then there is the result of the act. Those are sequential events that are implied by the verb "to create".
If your god engaged in that act, then your god is subject to time and not "outside" of it.
You can't have your pie and eat it too.
How long did your God wait until before creating time?
Is this question stupid or what?
How much money do you have if you don't have any money?
But maybe God is outside time by virtue of existing in infinite time dimensions, rather than none.The question is a stupid as your statement that your "God creates time".
"Do" is an action; actions take place over time; how can a "timeless" thingamahoozy do anything? It would be like a bug trapped in amber.
But maybe God is outside time by virtue of existing in infinite time dimensions, rather than none.
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But this is about whats possible, and not just about whats intelligible.Sure. Given that much leeway, I could tell you how to build a warp-driven starship right out Star Trek.
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