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The one in prison for campaign finance violations related to Donald paying off the person he had sex with while one of his previous wives was taking care of their young child?

No, Trump made the decision that he needs a lawyer who is not yet in prison and hired Jay Sekulow.
 
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So, you're saying that Jay Sekulow is above reproach?

I think my description "not yet in prison" testifies to my assessment of his probity.
 
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Apparently, Mueller had nothing on him.

Bummer ...

Well, Mueller indicted the guy's predecessor. Jay hardly had time to commit any felonies in his new role.
 
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Well, Mueller indicted the guy's predecessor. Jay hardly had time to commit any felonies in his new role.
LOL ... like I said they had nothing on him. You might have noticed that they prosecuted Trump appointees for old crimes previously not deemed worth prosecuting. They tried to entrap a few with perjury but apparently Sekulow didn't fall for such silliness.
 
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LOL ... like I said they had nothing on him. You might have noticed that they prosecuted Trump appointees for old crimes, previously not deemed worth prosecuting. They tried to entrap a few with perjury but apparently Sekulow didn't fall for such silliness.
Sekulow, to his credit, is far sharper than the typical members of the Trump crew.
 
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LOL ... like I said they had nothing on him. You might have noticed that they prosecuted Trump appointees for old crimes previously not deemed worth prosecuting. They tried to entrap a few with perjury but apparently Sekulow didn't fall for such silliness.
Yes, old crimes, some going as far back as the 2016 campaign.
 
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LOL ... high praise. :oldthumbsup:
Against an extraordinarily low bar. The lowest bar ever. Hugely low. People — really smart people— have been telling me how low the bar is set in the Trump administration.
 
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Sure. The entire report was based on opposition research obtained by a foreign agent through Russian contacts.

The entire report? I didn't know you were part of Mueller's team.
Well it’s really difficult to discern what Mueller used as he was unfamiliar with portions of his own report.
 
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The Congress has a duty to impeach on which statutes? For Clinton it was easy. Ken Starr reported President Clinton perjured himself before a grand jury.

The very fact Mueller issued his report and testified before the House proved there was no obstruction.

How exactly, did you come to that conclusion?????
 
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The weird and funny thing is, two major investigations are currently taking place, as you allude, and we are to believe jacknob jones from the Internet, still saying President Trump colluded with Russia. Goodness, such resolve!

Hasn't the lesson of Rachel The Promiser taught people anything?

Perhaps sucking on a dirty sour sock when those reports come down will force them to simma down now?
Jargon.

Mueller brought nothing, a giant nothingburger, and the cowards not being able to impeach says it all, they can't even persuade their own people. Again, we know that because they cannot make their rhetorical gymnastics produce a speck of evidence of a crime, and hence cannot impeach.
That is simply contrary to fact. They wouldn't need any evidence to impeach, technically, but as long as the Senate is in control of Donald enthusiasts, no amount of evidence would suffice to convince them to vote against him. Without the Senate votes to convict, the House impeaching is more than a waste of time.

I am thinking there won't be enough socks to go around when the time comes.
I wouldn't know - is that something you do a lot?
 
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So Mueller could have preferred similar charges through the Justice dept and Bob Barr would be compelled to communicate them to Congress.
No, he couldn't and it's doubtful he would. Mueller's mandate was only to report to Barr; unlike Starr's mandate, there was no requirement to report to Congress.
 
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Without the Senate votes to convict, the House impeaching is more than a waste of time.
... and you and I both know why.

Impeachment and removal from office requires the president to lose his base of support. That simply hasn't happened. If anything, Trump's base has strengthened after nearly three years of non-stop 7/24 accusations from Dems and their media allies.
 
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... and you and I both know why.

Impeachment and removal from office requires the president to lose his base of support. That simply hasn't happened. If anything, Trump's base has strengthened after nearly three years of non-stop 7/24 accusations from Dems and their media allies.
There are no remaining Republicans with backbone. Pelosi knows that the Boss has his underlings frightened.
 
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