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Deep devotion to Donald does not make a person a Christian.

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It accomplished one thing at least. It let the world know that there are alternatives to voting either Republican or Democrat. And that is worth knowing.

I always knew that. This isn't news. Everyone knows there's a third party.

Goofy.
 
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That was my first thought, too, when I read that post by our friend.

It's almost like they cannot reconcile the fact that there are some people who actually support Trump and it wasn't out of ignorance that they voted for him. They voted for Trump because they wanted Trump not because of "Hmmm, I guess I don't have any other options."

It's silly really. They are pretty prideful in that manner thinking that if they don't like a candidate, then everyone else has to dislike him too.
 
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It's almost like they cannot reconcile the fact that there are some people who actually support Trump and it wasn't out of ignorance that they voted for him. They voted for Trump because they wanted Trump not because of "Hmmm, I guess I don't have any other options."

It's silly really. They are pretty prideful in that manner thinking that if they don't like a candidate, then everyone else has to dislike him too.
It is well known that many people supported Donald Trump without being ignorant of alternatives because for them his wickedness was acceptable.
 
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Not just a third but at least three more than that.

Are you telling me that you didn't know that there were multiple 3rd party candidates? Have you been living under a rock for the last 6-8 decades?

It is well known that many people supported Donald Trump without being ignorant of alternatives because for them his wickedness was acceptable.

You have not pointed to a single act of wickedness that has surpassed any previous president. I'm sure you would've hated King David since he had multiple women and murdered a man for his wife and killed 200 soldiers and cut off their foreskin for YET ANOTHER WOMAN. Oh King David was wicked beyond words but yet he was a man after God's heart because he repented over and over.

I warn you, judging Trump without being God and being unable to see in his heart is a very dangerous thing indeed.
 
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I warn you, judging Trump without being God and being unable to see in his heart is a very dangerous thing indeed.

Really? Will you quote "touch not the Lord's anointed" on the false premise that the POTUS is anointed leader of the USA? I hope not. POTUS is no king, nor a man chosen by God. He was elected by a corrupt and unrepresentative electoral college created for the sake of attracting the southern colonies into the union near the time of the revolutionary war. But Donald is not special, not anointed, not even elected by a majority of voters in 2016. He's just a man and as a man he is open to every test of righteousness that any other man is open to. He is no king David in modern times, he's just a former bankrupt businessman who is POTUS now and no one owes him religious allegiance.
 
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Really? Will you quote "touch not the Lord's anointed" on the false premise that the POTUS is anointed leader of the USA? I hope not. POTUS is no king, nor a man chosen by God. He was elected by a corrupt and unrepresentative electoral college created for the sake of attracting the southern colonies into the union near the time of the revolutionary war. But Donald is not special, not anointed, not even elected by a majority of voters in 2016. He's just a man and as a man he is open to every test of righteousness that any other man is open to. He is no king David in modern times, he's just a former bankrupt businessman who is POTUS now and no one owes him religious allegiance.

There we go. We have a stubborn spirit that refuses to listen. No longer needed to discuss this matter with you. I hope that you open your heart and mind someday in the future.
 
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You will find the passage prohibiting boys and girls showering together in the same place you will find it says it is morally wrong to enslave black people and right before where it condemns cannibalism and right after where it prohibits crucifixions as capital punishment. So as a Christian you can conclude that although these things may cause a bit of societal outrage, there is really nothing wrong with any of them.
 
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You will find the passage prohibiting boys and girls showering together in the same place you will find it says it is morally wrong to enslave black people and right before where it condemns cannibalism and right after where it prohibits crucifixions as capital punishment. So as a Christian you can conclude that although these things may cause a bit of societal outrage, there is really nothing wrong with any of them.

lol wat
 
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It accomplished one thing at least. It let the world know that there are alternatives to voting either Republican or Democrat. And that is worth knowing.

It also accomplished sticking to their morals. Romney said his conscience could not allow him to vote for Trump. None of the Republican (or Democratic) Presidents or Republican candidates for POTUS voted for Trump. President H.W. Bush voted for Hillary Clinton. AFAIK the rest voted for neither Trump or Clinton. President George W Bush and Mrs. Laura Bush said they were voting Republican down the ballot but not for Trump.
 
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He has been talking rubbish and acting like a fool since day one.
I don't agree. He believes in enforcing the immigration laws, so the mainstream media attacks him for being racist. But Donald fights back and the mainstream media doesn't like it.
 
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Again, this is where I shake the dust off my feet.

Good. That's what I already did in regards to this off-topic point you randomly raised, several posts back. :)
 
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I don't agree. He believes in enforcing the immigration laws, so the mainstream media attacks him for being racist. But Donald fights back and the mainstream media doesn't like it.

That is fine you don't have to agree as there are lots of people out there that don't consider social justice in the spirit of Gospel. That is not to say you don't but your hero doesn't... and I believe there is enough evidence in the public domain to show that, so ignoring is what the phycologists call cognitive dissonance.
 
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Christians follow Jesus. Supporting Donald Trump is not the same thing as following Jesus. .

True.

And voting for abortion, lgbt, open borders, anti-Christian civil laws etc -- is also "not the same thing as following Jesus".

Politics is not "church" but the morals that we get in church - affects how we vote.
The morals we get in church also affects how we shop and what we shop for - but shopping is not "following Jesus"
 
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