Debunking Flat Earth

Lost4words · Jan 4, 2019

Why would science lie?
Why would astronomers lie?
Why would NASA lie?
Why would all the other space agencies lie?
Why would all the governments of the world lie?
Why would all those companies involved with space exploration lie?
Why would astronauts lie?
Why would Satellite technology firms lie?
Why would university's lie?
Why would space flight entrepreneurs lie?

Why would they lie about a spherical earth?

d taylor · Jan 4, 2019

Lost4words said:
Why would science lie?
Why would astronomers lie?
Why would NASA lie?
Why would all the other space agencies lie?
Why would all the governments of the world lie?
Why would all those companies involved with space exploration lie?
Why would astronauts lie?
Why would Satellite technology firms lie?
Why would university's lie?
Why would space flight entrepreneurs lie?

Why would they lie about a spherical earth?

NKJV
1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.

ESV
1 John 5:19 We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one

NIV
1 John 5:19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

ASV
1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in the evil one.

CJB
1 John 5:19 We know that we are from God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the Evil One.

Lost4words · Jan 4, 2019

d taylor said:
NKJV
1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.

ESV
1 John 5:19 We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one

NIV
1 John 5:19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

ASV
1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in the evil one.

CJB
1 John 5:19 We know that we are from God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the Evil One.

Doesnt answer my question.

d taylor · Jan 5, 2019

Lost4words said:
Doesnt answer my question.

Of course it would not, not when we are taking about God's world and creation. That is the last place (Bible) to look for answers. Science should be the first place (especially for chistians) to look. And when addressing any question about the world and humanity of course we need a man created answer.

Christianity is more worldly that the world and with that come believing all the lies the world believes and in turn Christians experience the same problems as the world.
Revelation states this about the Church, You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.

That perfectly describes the current church

SeventyOne · Jan 5, 2019

Lost4words said:
Why would science lie?
Why would astronomers lie?
Why would NASA lie?
Why would all the other space agencies lie?
Why would all the governments of the world lie?
Why would all those companies involved with space exploration lie?
Why would astronauts lie?
Why would Satellite technology firms lie?
Why would university's lie?
Why would space flight entrepreneurs lie?

Why would they lie about a spherical earth?

Let's make it a bit more personal so you might be able to understand my point. When you tell anyone the earth is a ball, you are lying.

Why are you lying? Simple. You just don't know any better yet. It's all you know, and all you've been taught, so you think it's real. Most of these people aren't any different. It's what they know and what they've been taught. Just like you, they have no idea they are believing a lie.

Tinker Grey · Jan 5, 2019

SeventyOne said:
Let's make it a bit more personal so you might be able to understand my point. When you tell anyone the earth is a ball, you are lying.

Why are you lying? Simple. You just don't know any better yet. It's all you know, and all you've been taught, so you think it's real. Most of these people aren't any different. It's what they know and what they've been taught. Just like you, they have no idea they are believing a lie.

This is called deflection. The question is about @Lost4words; it's about science, astronomers, NASA, etc.

It's a deflection because your response allows you talk "graciously" about Lost4words' ignorance. The question is about why those without excuse would lie.

Try again.

SeventyOne · Jan 5, 2019

Tinker Grey said:
This is called deflection. The question is about @Lost4words; it's about science, astronomers, NASA, etc.

It's a deflection because your response allows you talk "graciously" about Lost4words' ignorance. The question is about why those without excuse would lie.

Try again.

Your rejection of my answer doesn't make it any less viable.

Tinker Grey · Jan 5, 2019

SeventyOne said:
Your rejection of my answer doesn't make it any less viable.

Really? You think astronauts don't know why they lie (arguendo)?

Strathos · Jan 5, 2019

I notice how no one has yet responded to my experience of hands-on, experimental refutation of a popular flat earth claim.

Whyayeman · Jan 5, 2019

Does anybody have a theory of a flat moon? We only ever see one side of it, so it could be a disc, or perhaps a cylinder, always presenting the same aspect as it swings back and forth across Earth. I think the mathematics would be difficult without throwing out Newtonian physics.

Lost4words · Jan 5, 2019

SeventyOne said:
Let's make it a bit more personal so you might be able to understand my point. When you tell anyone the earth is a ball, you are lying.

Why are you lying? Simple. You just don't know any better yet. It's all you know, and all you've been taught, so you think it's real. Most of these people aren't any different. It's what they know and what they've been taught. Just like you, they have no idea they are believing a lie.

Why would everyone in my list lie?

Lost4words · Jan 5, 2019

Tinker Grey said:
This is called deflection. The question is about @Lost4words; it's about science, astronomers, NASA, etc.

It's a deflection because your response allows you talk "graciously" about Lost4words' ignorance. The question is about why those without excuse would lie.

Try again.

Ignorance? Thanks!

Lost4words · Jan 5, 2019

Nobody has been fed any lies about a spherical earth. Everyone and their pet hampster knows that the earth is a sphere. Science has not lied, neither has anyone else. Lies is the only answer that a flat earth believer can give.

Lost4words · Jan 5, 2019

SeventyOne said:
I like science too. I just know some of what we are told to believe in the name of science simply isn't so.

Like what? What isn't so and can you provide some proof please? Ta

Whyayeman · Jan 5, 2019

I can't help thinking of the elephants standing on the giant turtle's back. I enjoyed some of the Disc World books, but I really don't believe in magic. A flat Earth requires the rewriting of physics. I'm looking forward to that.

A_Thinker · Jan 5, 2019

d taylor said:
You want photographic evidence. Ok the ISS is stated to be going around the earth at 250 miles above the earth.

If that is the case why is the photo of the ISS and the Red Bull jump, showing the same height above the earth. The Red Bull jump was at 20 miles high.
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The Red Bull jump photos are unreliable and inconsistent ...

A_Thinker · Jan 5, 2019

SeventyOne said:
There is work available out there by people with PhD's in Physics and degrees in engineering who demonstrate issues in the global math and put forward their own mathematical proofs for flat earth.

Where can I access this work ???

d taylor · Jan 5, 2019

Lets see parents lie to their own children, so as the Bible states we are evil and no one is righteous or does good.

d taylor · Jan 5, 2019

A_Thinker said:
The Red Bull jump photos are unreliable and inconsistent ...

No they are not, its just they prove your so beloved science is lying. so you reject the evidence.

A_Thinker · Jan 5, 2019

SeventyOne said:
Let's make it a bit more personal so you might be able to understand my point. When you tell anyone the earth is a ball, you are lying.

And so goes a major flat earth strategy ... if you don't have the FACTS to convince them, ... imply that they are a part of the deception ...

That's not how real science works, you know.

Flat Earthers make all this noise about being open-minded, yet resort to ad hominem and innuendo when their conclusions are questioned.

Do you think that this is truly a valid approach to truth ?

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