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Debunking False Religions with Christian Universalism

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I talked with a Muslim today. I showed them the Gospel, that Jesus Christ saves everyone through faith alone. That is, the whole world will be saved, every single person in existence will trust in Christ and go to Heaven. Since they did not believe in what I told them, the truth, I decided to have a more casual conversation with them so they open up more.



First off, what proves that Christianity is the only correct religion is because it’s the only religion where everyone has a happy ending. In Islam, you have to upload the Five Pillars, which is works salvation. Christianity is correct because it has faith alone salvation, in Jesus Christ.



It’s impossible for the good works of man to please God. Thus, Christ, the Lamb of God, died for our sins, so all of them can be washed away. Good works can not wash away sins, only the blood of Christ can. That’s the big difference. That’s why it’s so important to have people believe in Christ with faith alone, and why Satan will do everything in his power to trick people into doing random good works trying to be saved. That’s the broad way. The narrow way, which everyone will eventually go through, is faith in Jesus.



As well, the Gospel of Jesus Christ is written in the Book of Genesis.

Hebrew Adam Seth Enosh Kenan Mahalalel Jared Enoch Methuselah Lamech Noah

English Man Appointed Mortal Sorrow; The Blessed God Shall come down Teaching His death shall bring The Despairing Rest, or comfort.

Thus proving the Christian God is the God of Genesis and thus the One and Only True God.



But if those two proofs weren’t enough, let’s dissect my entire conversation with this Muslim and disprove it all.



(Reminder: I’m only doing this after the conversation. During the conversation, I was polite and kind to them, which you should do when evangelizing).



First, only the Bible is true word of God. Because God says so, and God is truth.

Numbers 23:19 God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation.

Someone’s interpretation would be the Quran, which is false.

As such, we can use Bible verses as proofs to disprove lies.



So they said something along the lines of “For us, Christ is just a prophet like Moses”.

But the truth is that

John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

1 Corinthians 8:6 Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.

It’s a complete contradiction to call Christ “just a human prophet like Moses”. Moses had sin, like all humans. Christ was perfect, sinless.



I asked “So do you follow Christ’s teachings? Technically?”



They said “No not really. We follow God actually. We pray 5 times a day. And we always pray in the direction of Mecca. Also, if the sun rises in the west, that means it’s the end of the world, or judgement day”.

A tricky wording. To follow Christ’s teachings is to follow God. That’s the truth. Those who do not follow Christs teachings do not follow God because Christ is God.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.



I said “Ah ok, I pray multiples times a day. So, we also both pray, but in different ways.”



They said “Sort of similar actually



They said “You pray with your hands clapped together, we open them up or lay them on the ground. Also we have rules of praying. We must do Wuduh, which means you clean yourself, before you pray.”

There is no such thing as Wuduh in the Bible, thus it’s false. There’s no specific formula you must follow for prayer, it’s simply a communication between man and God.

Jeremiah 29:12 Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will hear you.



I said “So, like a bath?”



They said “Ye, if you’re already clean all you go to do is clean your arms. Rinse your arms in water and that’s it. And we go to a Mosque and pray. Mosque’s are churches. Mosques are usually marble. All white and marble. It’s beautiful to look at. You know how Dubai is pretty”

Muslims may physically clean themselves, but the only thing that washes away sins is the blood of Jesus Christ. Only by believing in Jesus Christ can you be saved, no good works, faith alone.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

Ephesians 1:7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,

Mosques are not mentioned in the Bible either as a church, thus they are false.



I said “I’ve seen some Mosques. Ohhh Dubai, that place is really high tech. I heard a lot of tourists go there”



I say “That’s interesting. Thanks for sharing your beliefs”



They said “Ye, well, I’m getting bored. I’ll see you sometime. Maybe”

I will see them sometime. In Heaven, once they, of their own free will, become a believer in Christ. The beauty of Christian Universal Salvation is that everyone will become believers in Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all His enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,



Furthermore, God is a God of love. He desires a personal relationship with all creation. That can only be achieved through Jesus Christ. Islam is just a long list of loveless rules that offer no lasting comfort. A single solitary author that tries to incorporate Christianity into it, but ends up contradicting itself, since Christianity is already complete by itself. You can not add anything to Christ’s work, it is already finished.





1 Thessalonians 5:18 Give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
 
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I talked with a Muslim today. I showed them the Gospel, that Jesus Christ saves everyone through faith alone. That is, the whole world will be saved, every single person in existence will trust in Christ and go to Heaven. Since they did not believe in what I told them, the truth, I decided to have a more casual conversation with them so they open up more.



First off, what proves that Christianity is the only correct religion is because it’s the only religion where everyone has a happy ending. In Islam, you have to upload the Five Pillars, which is works salvation. Christianity is correct because it has faith alone salvation, in Jesus Christ.



It’s impossible for the good works of man to please God. Thus, Christ, the Lamb of God, died for our sins, so all of them can be washed away. Good works can not wash away sins, only the blood of Christ can. That’s the big difference. That’s why it’s so important to have people believe in Christ with faith alone, and why Satan will do everything in his power to trick people into doing random good works trying to be saved. That’s the broad way. The narrow way, which everyone will eventually go through, is faith in Jesus.



As well, the Gospel of Jesus Christ is written in the Book of Genesis.

Hebrew Adam Seth Enosh Kenan Mahalalel Jared Enoch Methuselah Lamech Noah

English Man Appointed Mortal Sorrow; The Blessed God Shall come down Teaching His death shall bring The Despairing Rest, or comfort.

Thus proving the Christian God is the God of Genesis and thus the One and Only True God.



But if those two proofs weren’t enough, let’s dissect my entire conversation with this Muslim and disprove it all.



(Reminder: I’m only doing this after the conversation. During the conversation, I was polite and kind to them, which you should do when evangelizing).



First, only the Bible is true word of God. Because God says so, and God is truth.

Numbers 23:19 God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation.

Someone’s interpretation would be the Quran, which is false.

As such, we can use Bible verses as proofs to disprove lies.



So they said something along the lines of “For us, Christ is just a prophet like Moses”.

But the truth is that

John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

1 Corinthians 8:6 Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.

It’s a complete contradiction to call Christ “just a human prophet like Moses”. Moses had sin, like all humans. Christ was perfect, sinless.



I asked “So do you follow Christ’s teachings? Technically?”



They said “No not really. We follow God actually. We pray 5 times a day. And we always pray in the direction of Mecca. Also, if the sun rises in the west, that means it’s the end of the world, or judgement day”.

A tricky wording. To follow Christ’s teachings is to follow God. That’s the truth. Those who do not follow Christs teachings do not follow God because Christ is God.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.



I said “Ah ok, I pray multiples times a day. So, we also both pray, but in different ways.”



They said “Sort of similar actually



They said “You pray with your hands clapped together, we open them up or lay them on the ground. Also we have rules of praying. We must do Wuduh, which means you clean yourself, before you pray.”

There is no such thing as Wuduh in the Bible, thus it’s false. There’s no specific formula you must follow for prayer, it’s simply a communication between man and God.

Jeremiah 29:12 Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will hear you.



I said “So, like a bath?”



They said “Ye, if you’re already clean all you go to do is clean your arms. Rinse your arms in water and that’s it. And we go to a Mosque and pray. Mosque’s are churches. Mosques are usually marble. All white and marble. It’s beautiful to look at. You know how Dubai is pretty”

Muslims may physically clean themselves, but the only thing that washes away sins is the blood of Jesus Christ. Only by believing in Jesus Christ can you be saved, no good works, faith alone.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

Ephesians 1:7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,

Mosques are not mentioned in the Bible either as a church, thus they are false.



I said “I’ve seen some Mosques. Ohhh Dubai, that place is really high tech. I believe that’s in Saudi Arabia? I heard a lot of tourists go there”



I say “That’s interesting. Thanks for sharing your beliefs”



They said “Ye, well, I’m getting bored. I’ll see you sometime. Maybe”

I will see them sometime. In Heaven, once they, of their own free will, become a believer in Christ. The beauty of Christian Universal Salvation is that everyone will become believers in Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all His enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,



Furthermore, God is a God of love. He desires a personal relationship with all creation. That can only be achieved through Jesus Christ. Islam is just a long list of loveless rules that offer no lasting comfort. A single solitary author that tries to incorporate Christianity into it, but ends up contradicting itself, since Christianity is already complete by itself. You can not add anything to Christ’s work, it is already finished.





1 Thessalonians 5:18 Give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
So preaching the gospel is pointless, Christian sacrifice worthless, the Church just a weekend entertainment for those so inclined? It does not matter what a person does or says because they will be saved anyway? So live as you please? You'd better hope you are right. If you are causing people to avoid accepting Christ by your false teaching, God will hold you accountable.
 
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First off, what proves that Christianity is the only correct religion is because it’s the only religion where everyone has a happy ending.
According to this logic a Muslim can remain a Muslim with no consequences.
We can also add , a serial killer,rapist, thief etc. etc.....
Universalism just makes no sense. The Gospel of Jesus Christ of Nazareth does not teach a happy ending for all unless destruction is something to be happy about.

Matthew 7
13“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

( BTW , I dont think there is any way a Universalist can twist this prophecy given by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. )


Blessings.
 
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preaching the gospel

Everyone is saved by believing in Christ with faith alone, He is the the only way to Heaven. The Gospel tells us this. Thus, preaching the Gospel is the most important thing we do with our lives.

JEREMIAH 31:34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, "Know the Lord," because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest.

Because, the longer someone goes without become a believer, without the Holy Spirit instead of them, the more pain and suffering they mentally feel from sin. That spiritual anguish is real. By telling them the good news now rather than later, we can save them from any unnecessary hardship.

ISAIAH 45:22-24 "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth.
 
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According to this logic
A muslim will not go to Heaven if they don't believe in Christ. In fact, everyone must believe in Christ to go to Heaven, it's absolutely necessary.

HOSEA 14:4, 9 I will heal their waywardness and love them freely, for my anger has turned away from them .... Who is wise? He will realize these things. Who is discerning? He will understand them. The ways of the Lord are right; the righteous walk in them

Islam is waywardness, a false religion. Having faith in Christ heals them. All people will become believers in Christ and be healed by the Lord, as was planned by God before the foundations of the world was set.

ISAIAH 14:24, 27 The Lord Almighty has sworn, "Surely, as I have planned, so it will be, and as I have purposed, so it will stand"... For the Lord Almighty has purposed, and who can thwart him? His hand is stretched out, and who can turn it back?
 
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A muslim will not go to Heaven if they don't believe in Christ. In fact, everyone must believe in Christ to go to Heaven, it's absolutely necessary.

HOSEA 14:4, 9 I will heal their waywardness and love them freely, for my anger has turned away from them .... Who is wise? He will realize these things. Who is discerning? He will understand them. The ways of the Lord are right; the righteous walk in them

Islam is waywardness, a false religion. Having faith in Christ heals them. All people will become believers in Christ and be healed by the Lord, as was planned by God before the foundations of the world was set.

ISAIAH 14:24, 27 The Lord Almighty has sworn, "Surely, as I have planned, so it will be, and as I have purposed, so it will stand"... For the Lord Almighty has purposed, and who can thwart him? His hand is stretched out, and who can turn it back?
That is not what Christian Universalism teaches.
 
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Everything is mute. Somethings you said here goes against what you also said. Case in point "A muslim will not go to Heaven if they don't believe in Christ. In fact, everyone must believe in Christ to go to Heaven, it's absolutely necessary." Yet you said "every single person in existence will trust in Christ and go to Heaven.". Which is it? One is true one is false as in lie.

God did not even spare HIs angels that sinned. What we think we are far better then they are? If God did not even spare His angels that sinned. All have a choice. No free will with "every single person in existence will trust in Christ and go to Heaven.". I pray I didn't offend if so forgive me
 
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A princess kisses a frog, and it turns into a prince. That's a fairy tail!
A princess kisses a frog, and millions of years later, it turns into a prince. That's evolution!

An atheist just approached me and tried to "convert me" using evolution. Convert me to what? The belief in nothing? Try to take away the joy I've gained from learning the truth, the faith alone in Jesus Christ saves us.

They started talking about how humans came from monkeys and apes and there's a whole chart and how scientists approved it. Did scientists create monkeys? Did scientists create humans? No. Only God created humans to have dominion over all animals.

Genesis 1:26 ESV Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

The only scientist I completely and fully trust is God. He created the entire biology of humans before biologists discovered our immune systems. He created all chemical compounds, atoms, protons, neutrons and electrons before chemists discovered the periodic table. He created all laws of physics before physicians discovered the laws of motion.

Jeremiah 9:4 ESV Let everyone beware of his neighbor, and put no trust in any brother, for every brother is a deceiver, and every neighbor goes about as a slanderer.

Many of my fellow believers in Christ were there to witness this too. One of them made a chart that showed a fox turning into a human as a joke. I also made one of a worm turning into a human for humor. Like what, in a million years, anything can happen? If monkeys turned into humans, what about the foxes or the worms, why aren't they human too? Humans are distinct from animals, God tell us so in scripture.

James 3:7 All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and sea creatures are being tamed and have been tamed by mankind,

Luke 12:24 Consider the ravens: They do not sow or reap, they have no storeroom or barn; yet God feeds them. And how much more valuable you are than birds!

It's because God created humans separate from animals. We are not animals. We are made in the image of God.

Of course, science has created modern medicine, life saving surgeries, better health care, accessibility technology, etc. Many great inventions have come from science. But God created science, He uses science to spread His will, to save all people and have them all come to Christ to be saved by faith alone, which they will eventually.

I am against atheists trying to use science and evolution as a weapon against God, that is what I am talking against with this post. We must be grateful and thankful to God that He has allowed humans to discover these wonderful traits of science and use them to heal the sick, feed the hungry and house the homeless.

I am against atheists converting others to atheism. Why do they spread their hopelessness to others? Why bring others to despair? These are not good. God is good and His good news, the Gospel, that Christ will save everyone. That everyone will have faith in Him and the whole world will become believers in Him, this makes people happy, it brings them joy.

Psalm 14:1 ESV
To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”
 
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Christian Universalism is the Bible truth, my friends :)

1 John 2:2 Christ "is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world."

Will Jesus save the whole world? Yes!

Genesis 22:18 All nations on earth will be blessed through Abraham’s offspring.

Will all nations be blessed? Yes!

HABAKKUK 2:14 For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

Will the earth be filled with the glory of the Lord? Yes!

Thus, Jesus will save the whole world, blessing them with knowledge, faith in the Lord.

aka

The entire world will become believers in Christ and thus the entire world will go to Heaven.
 
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Everyone is saved by believing in Christ with faith alone, He is the the only way to Heaven. The Gospel tells us this. Thus, preaching the Gospel is the most important thing we do with our lives.

JEREMIAH 31:34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, "Know the Lord," because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest.

Because, the longer someone goes without become a believer, without the Holy Spirit instead of them, the more pain and suffering they mentally feel from sin. That spiritual anguish is real. By telling them the good news now rather than later, we can save them from any unnecessary hardship.

ISAIAH 45:22-24 "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth.
For universalists, everyone gets saved in the end. If you tell people it's ok, God will accept you heaven, they will tell you that's wonderful and go on sinning. Jesus said this: (John 3)

19And this is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved the darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever practices the truth comes into the Light, so that it may be seen clearly that what he has done has been accomplished in God.”

That is why the gospel must be preached and the Holy Spirit bring conviction of sin. God only saves sinners. There is no second chance, only the second death.
 
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According to this logic a Muslim can remain a Muslim with no consequences.
That is universalism in a nutshell. a religion with no consquences.
It doesn't matter what one believes in this live, as in the next universalist belief one gets a second chance, a compulsory second chance, a question with only one answer.
There is no consquence in universalism, no one is punished, all are saved, because despite there rejection of God, God saves them, All.
 
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Christian Universalism is the Bible truth, my friends :)
1 John 2:2 Christ "is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world."
Will Jesus save the whole world? Yes!
Genesis 22:18 All nations on earth will be blessed through Abraham’s offspring.
Will all nations be blessed? Yes!
HABAKKUK 2:14 For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
Will the earth be filled with the glory of the Lord? Yes!
Thus, Jesus will save the whole world, blessing them with knowledge, faith in the Lord.
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The entire world will become believers in Christ and thus the entire world will go to Heaven.
"Christian Universalism is the Bible truth, my friends :)"
Nope! Show me one vs., 2 or more would be better, where the Father, Himself, or Jesus, Himself says that.

"1 John 2:2 Christ "is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world."
#2 Right! But being for the whole world does not mean the whole world will accept it.

"Will Jesus save the whole world? Yes!"
No. See my second response, above.

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Genesis 22:18 All nations on earth will be blessed through Abraham’s offspring.
Will all nations be blessed? Yes!
"
No! See second response, above. But remember there ain't no nations in the grave or hell.


"HABAKKUK 2:14 For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
Will the earth be filled with the glory of the Lord? Yes!"

Right. See second response.

"Thus, Jesus will save the whole world, blessing them with knowledge, faith in the Lord."
None of your vss. say that!

"aka
The entire world will become believers in Christ and thus the entire world will go to Heaven."

AKA balderdash. Have you read the end of the book?

Revelation 22:11
(11) He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Ten more vss. the end. No more death. No more salvation, nothing but, "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:"
 
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wow, in that whole conversation, not one mention of actual evangelism:

~ "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comes to the father but by Me" John 14:6
~ "And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12
~ "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God" John 3:3
~ "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him" John 3:36

thats how you know universalism in all forms truly is heresy. there is no real preaching of the Gospel of Jesus
 
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evangelism:
Believe in Jesus Christ with faith alone and you will be saved. All people will therefore become believers in Christ through this way and be saved. Thus, everyone will go to Heaven. I mention this frequently when talking about Christian Universal Salvation, because they go hand-in-hand. That's the truth, Super Kal, my friend. Christian Universalism makes evangelism more effective because it reveals the whole truth, the love God has for all of humanity.

Acts 3:21 NLT: “[Jesus] must remain in heaven until the time for the final restoration of ALL things, as God promised long ago through the prophets."

Romans 11:32: "For God has consigned all to disobedience, that He may have mercy on all."


Restoration of all! Mercy on all! Christ shall be all in all
 
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Buddhism is false because it promotes work salvation. Buddhists believe that if you meditate enough (a good work) that eventually you will reach a state of Nirvana, which is peace. However, the only way to obtain peace is by having faith alone in Jesus Christ. That is the only way we can reach paradise, a place of permanent peace which is free from suffering. Jesus Christ is the only way to that peaceful paradise called Heaven, to the city of New Jerusalem where there will be a tree in the center with leaves for the healing of all nations. Meditation does not save you! Only Jesus Christ saves you!

EZEKIEL 18:23 Have I any desire, says the Lord God, for the death of a wicked man? Will I not rather that he should mend his ways and live? ( NEB )



A Buddhist came to me and told me about Buddhism with the law of karma. The term “karma” does not appear in the Bible. Biblically, there is the Law of Reaping and Sowing, which means if you plant bad seeds, you will harvest bad fruit. To put it simpler, if you do bad things, bad things will happen to you in return. That is why the wages of sin is death. Even if you have one sin, you will die. And we all have sin from Adam, the first human. Having good karma or avoiding bad karma doesn’t save you. Only faith alone in Jesus Christ saves you. That’s the only way your sins can be washed away. Because Christianity is all about removing that evil and making you’re body to be glorified, wrapped by the Holy Spirit, so it can be presentable to God, who is absolute holiness, pure perfection.

JEREMIAH 31:34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, "Know the Lord," because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. (NIV)



You cannot get rid of sin by doing good works. You cannot get rid of sin by avoiding bad works. The only way to get rid of sin is by being washed by the holy blood of Jesus Christ, that is, simply believing in Jesus Christ so it’s counted on to you as righteousness.

JOEL 2:28, 3:21 And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people ... Their bloodguilt which I have not pardoned, I will pardon.
 
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Believe in Jesus Christ with faith alone and you will be saved. All people will therefore become believers in Christ through this way and be saved. Thus, everyone will go to Heaven. I mention this frequently when talking about Christian Universal Salvation, because they go hand-in-hand. That's the truth, Super Kal, my friend. Christian Universalism makes evangelism more effective because it reveals the whole truth, the love God has for all of humanity.
Acts 3:21 NLT: “[Jesus] must remain in heaven until the time for the final restoration of ALL things, as God promised long ago through the prophets."
Romans 11:32: "For God has consigned all to disobedience, that He may have mercy on all."
Restoration of all! Mercy on all! Christ shall be all in all
Acts 3:21 "restoration of all things." People ain't things.
Romans 11:32 "He may have mercy on all." The word translated ""have mercy" is in the subjunctive mood. The mood of possibility and potentiality. "may have mercy" NOT "shall have mercy." It is possible for all not a done deal.
 
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So preaching the gospel is pointless, Christian sacrifice worthless, the Church just a weekend entertainment for those so inclined? It does not matter what a person does or says because they will be saved anyway? So live as you please? You'd better hope you are right. If you are causing people to avoid accepting Christ by your false teaching, God will hold you accountable.

Do not become teachers in large numbers, my brothers, since you know that we who are teachers will incur a stricter judgment.
James 3:1

Lord have mercy.
 
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First off, what proves that Christianity is the only correct religion is because it’s the only religion where everyone has a happy ending.
The only people that get a happy ending are these people.

I Corinthians 2:9 "But as it is written, "Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him."

God is not going to force anyone into repentance or to love him. Why do you think he is so long suffering?? It's because he's waiting on people to repent themselves. If everyone was saved why the long suffering? That makes no sense.

True repentance is a change of the heart/mind. If someone doesn't find that, they will perish. God refines us during our lifetimes, not in the LOF. That's the biblical truth.

I Corinthians 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

Alive in this verse does not mean eternal life. It's the Greek word 2227 zoopoieo and it's only used one time like this as the word alive. It's usually the word quickened. It means to vitalize in the spirit. Much like this verse,

I Peter 3:18 "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the Just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:"

Also what is biblical truth are the words of Christ himself. He calls the LOF, the second death. He does not call it a refinery.
 
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God is not going to force anyone into repentance or to love him.

This is a misunderstanding of universalism.

I Corinthians 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

Alive in this verse does not mean eternal life.

I disagree. The verse is drawing a parallel between the condemnation that came from Adam and the salvation that comes from Christ so, yes, it does mean eternal life.
 
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That is universalism in a nutshell. a religion with no consquences.
It doesn't matter what one believes in this live, as in the next universalist belief one gets a second chance, a compulsory second chance, a question with only one answer.
There is no consquence in universalism, no one is punished, all are saved, because despite there rejection of God, God saves them, All.
Not exactly. Purgatorial Universalism was the belief of some of the early church fathers, especially Greek-speaking ones such as Clement of Alexandria, Origen, and Gregory of Nyssa. It asserts that the unsaved will undergo Hell, but that Hell is remedial (neither everlasting nor purely retributive) according to key scriptures and that after purification or conversion all will enter Heaven.

So HELL is still part of the experience for some people. I would call that a consequence.
 
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