Deathbed Confessions

[FireDragon76]

Christianly speaking: yes.

Un-Christianly speaking: not really. Just do whatever the hell you feel like since there are no Absolute moral realities.

That seems like a false dichotomy to me.

Living with a sense of integrity has its own reward, and simply doesn't require Christianity as a skyhook.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

That seems like a false dichotomy to me.

Living with a sense of integrity has its own reward, and simply doesn't require Christianity as a skyhook.

Well, it's not a false dichotomy.....and maybe you haven't realized it yet, but integrity is optional since, if there's no god, then I'm not actually accountable to YOU nor to anyone else in any kind of way that is backed by any Absolute Ontology that would buttress in unmitigated axiological viewpoint.

So there...!

 

[FireDragon76]

Well, it's not a false dichotomy.....and maybe you haven't realized it yet, but integrity is optional since, if there's no god, then I'm not actually accountable to YOU nor to anyone else in any kind of way that is backed by any Absolute Ontology that would buttress in unmitigated axiological viewpoint.

So there...!

It's optional only inasmuch as a person wishes to embrace a foolish way of life. That sort of "freedom" isn't something I'd see as authentic, however.

 

[FireDragon76]

Well, it's not a false dichotomy.....and maybe you haven't realized it yet, but integrity is optional since, if there's no god, then I'm not actually accountable to YOU nor to anyone else in any kind of way that is backed by any Absolute Ontology that would buttress in unmitigated axiological viewpoint.

So there...!

Of course it's optional, that's part of the limited sort of freedom we have by default. But it's ultimately not any sort of freedom in the true sense.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

It's optional only inasmuch as a person wishes to embrace a foolish way of life. That sort of "freedom" isn't something I'd see as authentic, however.

You make it sound like there's a specific axiological "order" to life by which we can evaluate and discern foolishness from wise conduct. But if there's truly no Divine Being, Supreme Force or whatever through which we are sitting, I'm at pains to see that your notion of authenticity has any ontological significant other than that it makes you happy, which isn't to say very much.

 

[FireDragon76]

You make it sound like there's a specific axiological "order" to life by which we can evaluate and discern foolishness from wise conduct.

Buddha commented on what is wise 1000's of years ago in the Kalamas Sutra, "that which leads to benefit and happiness".