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Perhaps so. Perhaps this is Christ-like behaviour.Robby said:Well, you become like the god you adore.
Praxiteles said:Perhaps so. Perhaps this is Christ-like behaviour.
Praxiteles said:Disagreement with a belief system and an argument - is that having no respect? I wouldn't have thought so.
I'm sorry - discipline? Expelling someone from your presence is rejection.
And again I ask - what kind of example would be being set for the other youngsters?
CJ.23 said:Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
Maybe, but I hope not. This is a hard teaching. I think it is making the point that Christ's call is central to the Christian life; a literal reading is quite clearly in contradiction with the Ten Commandments.
EDIT: Here we have a clear need for Burger King theology - you have to interpret what Christ actually means - I don't think many Christians wiould take this as a literal injuction to hate their families.
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12volt_man said:Go back and read the OP.
She called her mother's most dearly held beliefs "insane", "damaging" and "silly", as well as calling her mother a "closed minded nimrod".
12volt_man said:It's not. Jesus is using hyperbole to make a point.
WaZoO said:Well, I go to an orthodox church with my friend usually, not with my parents, suprisingly, they don't have a problem with this. I'll probably talk to the priest there this Sunday. I've read this board for a long time, that's why I knew I could count on the people here for some good advice.
You're dead right - there is no reason that they can't disagree respectfully. We only got one side of the story, and even that side was presented when WaZoO was still in an emotional state, but it sounds as if harsh things were said on both sides.12volt_man said:Go back and read the OP.
She called her mother's most dearly held beliefs "insane", "damaging" and "silly", as well as calling her mother a "closed minded nimrod".
That's not simply disagreeing. There is no reason she can't disagree respecfully, is there?
Sorry then. Your post came across to me that way, is all.I didn't say that I would banish them from my presence, that is, that I would end a relationship with them.
Make them face the consequences of their behaviour, eh? The consequences of openly disagreeing with you and your beliefs; this constitutes bad behaviour, does it?I would never reject my child but I would make them face the consequences of their behavior.
Again with the bad behaviour. Who died and made you God?It would show the other youngsters that there is an authority to be obeyed and that there are negative consequences for bad behavior.
Have you read his post? I can't tell that he has any love for his mother at all.
I'd show him the door, especially if there are younger children in the house.
Matthew 25:41?Arkanin said:Yeah, and I somehow don't think that is what Jesus would do to his own son. In fact, I don't think any responsible parent would do that.
We all have fundy parents and we are all fundy ourselves... else there would never any conflicts at all.
Consider this possiblility that you are just as fundamentalist and narrow in your beliefs as your parents are... howbeit in the other direction.
Praxiteles said:Sorry then. Your post came across to me that way, is all.
Make them face the consequences of their behaviour, eh? The consequences of openly disagreeing with you and your beliefs; this constitutes bad behaviour, does it?
Again with the bad behaviour. Who died and made you God?
I want my offspring, as they reach adolescence and then adulthood, to know that they'll always have my love and support no matter what they do.
Arkanin said:Use your perception. She wrote that post after a pretty aggravating fight with her mother. Is it easy for you to speak fondly of people you care about right after you've had an enormous fight with them?
Yeah, and I somehow don't think that is what Jesus would do to his own son. In fact, I don't think any responsible parent would do that.
No offense, but I am very glad you weren't my dad.
First of all, if you were using your perception, you would have seen that the fight with her mother was several days before.
Second, no, I would not belittle and berate my own mother.
Then you need to read the Bible. There are many instances of God allowing His children to face the consequences of their actions. Who does the Bible tell us that the Lord chastens? Those whom He loves.
Moses wasn't allowed to enter the Promised Land because of his sin.
David wasn't allowed to build the Temple because of his sin.
In Romans, we read that God turned a group of homosexuals over to their own desires because they wouldn't repent.
Later, when speaking of discipline in the church, we are told that if a church member is in sin and refuses to repent, that we are to let them go for their own good and for the good of weaker believers in the church.
Going by your post, so am I.
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