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Dealing with men you don't like

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Hi, Follower :) I am Bill . . . a man. God bless you :) I understand that there are men who do not know how to love women; and they try to use women, instead of finding out how to love. And Jesus died on the cross, with hope for any evil person, at all.

So, we need to join with Jesus in having hope for all the evil people who want to use us in many different ways . . . not only sexually.

One thing I think of is > well, first of all . . . I need to not be trying to become masculine the way worldly and selfish men are masculine. But trust how God turns me into a caring and humble and sensitive man who has compassion and knows how to relate in God's love.

So . . . like this . . . be careful about what you think should be "feminine"; because many women are not Jesus ladies; so they are not how you should become feminine. This world is not teaching women how to be feminine the right way!!

There are plenty of scriptures to help us discover how to become, in Jesus and how God has us loving > here are some that have helped me a lot >

"rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God." (1 Peter 3:4)

"submitting to one another in the fear of God." (Ephesians 5:21)

"swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath" (in James 1:19)

"'And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses.'" (Mark 11:25)

This is how you can become feminine for Jesus Himself our Groom :) And do not be in a hurry to fine a real man. Any of us can be in a rush to get what we want; so then we can be judging people by if we can use them, instead of learning how to love with real Jesus people, first. And if we seek real correction with God, we can discover who is helping us with this. A real man, I offer, can help you get more real with God, and he encourages how you are able to help him, too, to get real correction :)
 
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Hi Follower ... I'm missing something ... I don't get how you get from being masculine to being immoral?
Might also help to express to us what is masculine about how you are in the world.

A woman who is masculine = immoral.

I know a woman who is masculine and hangs out with men, laughs to their dirty jokes..they hug her and touch her in the way a normal, moral woman wouldn't permit but she doesn't see it that way, she look at them as they are her friends..she is unaware of her mistakes. I done something similar before and I wonder what else I do so I need advices.
 
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A woman who is masculine = immoral.

I know a woman who is masculine and hangs out with men, laughs to their dirty jokes..they hug her and touch her in the way a normal, moral woman wouldn't permit but she doesn't see it that way, she look at them as they are her friends..she is unaware of her mistakes. I done something similar before and I wonder what else I do so I need advices.

A woman who is masculine has male characteristics or traits (muscular build, deeper voice, maybe doesn't like to wear makeup or dresses, etc)....that does not make her immoral nor any of the things you list. My son is very masculine but isn't immoral either. He doesn't like dirty jokes, or cuss, or touch women in immoral ways.

And what ways do "normal" women behave? What kind of touch is a "mistake" and universally shouldn't be permitted?

Is English not your first language and I am missing something?
 
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Well. If you hang out with more sisters in christ you can learn from them, especially the elder ones who've walked with Him for longer than you. They can teach you.
There's a women's forum on here that you can join if you ask the mods to join and then if you have any questions its easier to talk about them in a female only setting.
 
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I'm pretty much a girly girl these days. I like my long hair and long nails and try to look my best without obsessing over it. None of those things make me immoral. I dress modestly but I'm still current and feminine. There's a verse in the Bible that says anyone who sins is drawn to it on their own. To me this means if a guy has immoral thoughts or opinions about me, that is something he conjured up in his mind. It has nothing to do with my morality. So I can be who I am, allow the Holy Spirit to guide me through my conscience about how I dress and conduct myself, and not take someone else's immoral behavior as a reflection on me.

As for keeping myself safe. I carry pepper spray on my keyring, most everywhere I go. I've never had to use it on a human (had to spray dogs before), but I ready and willing if the need should occur. Having said that, I do my best to keep away from places, people and situations that could become unsafe, and also, I think having the pepper spray out on my keys where it can be seen sends a message. I'm also going to start learning martial arts in January! I'm super excited. And I don't think it makes me any less feminine, just more fit and ready to throw someone over my shoulder should the need arise.

I hope that helps. If it's not understandable, let me know and I'll try to explain better.

Blessings on you, sis.
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follower ... that helps but I wouldn't categorically say a masculine woman is sinful. There are genetic factors that influence some of those things that are beyond our control.
Secondly, I once heard a guy talk to talks a lot about masculine and feminine traits in people and said his list is is own as noone agrees with exactly what traits are male and which are feminine.
As for touching, that feels like a pretty feminine things to me, so I would follow the 5 love languages that lists touch as one of the wants to communicate love and acceptance.
Dirty jokes ... again somewhat personal as to what is acceptable and what isn't.

So all this feels rather judgmental to me. Are you doing what God is asking of you? Your not responsible for what other people are doing. That's my opinion.
 
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A woman who is masculine = immoral.

I know a woman who is masculine and hangs out with men, laughs to their dirty jokes..they hug her and touch her in the way a normal, moral woman wouldn't permit but she doesn't see it that way, she look at them as they are her friends..she is unaware of her mistakes. I done something similar before and I wonder what else I do so I need advices.
I do a lot of those things...but dirty jokes are usually stupid ones not filthy ones . and I let guys hug me. That's it. I'm complete opposite of masculine. But I do enjoy the company of men. I'm not immoral, I have done a few not okay things, but so have most. Just because ur like this doesn't mean ur immoral or masculine. Do what makes u happy. But make sure its in line with Gods word! Then . relax. Have an iced tea. Enjoy your day. Lol
 
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I'm a masculine woman, but I want to become feminine. I think that men can understand that I am immoral because I’m not like other women. I don't know how to deal with men and how to protect myself. Please, help me understand how can I be a moralistic woman?

Hope you respond to some of the posts above. :)
 
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I'm a masculine woman, but I want to become feminine. I think that men can understand that I am immoral because I’m not like other women. I don't know how to deal with men and how to protect myself. Please, help me understand how can I be a moralistic woman?
Hi Follower. In what ways exactly would you like to become more "feminine"? And what do you mean you don't know how to "deal" with me? Could you give me some examples?
 
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This is crazy. It is self-defeating and a denial of ones self and that is about as immoral is I can believe anyone being. Please do not let anyone push you into being something you are not just to pleases them. There are several accounts in the Bible of strong women, so If that is the case, someone is trying to manipulate you to becoming more appealing to them.

You say you don't know how to protect yourself from men. Are you reacting to something that has happened in your past and this has pushed you into becoming aggressive or defensive?
 
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I've been a tomboy all my life- comfortable in jeans and sweaters in the winter-shorts and tee shirts in the summer. When I'm invited to a special occasion if I can get away w/ wearing a nice pants suit, that's great! I don't like wearing make-up. someone please explain to me-what does true femininity look like?
 
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Ya, there has been no consistent standard of maleness or femaleness thru history. So I'm with those that say be who God created you to be and don't
let others shame you into anything else. Its been a few years since my Christian brothers tried to shame me into something. I didn't accept any of their shame.
It was kinda fun to see the confusion on their face when it didn't work.
 
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