Are you kidding me? I have never said that I know why they are gay, but when they tell me I generally take their word for it. Or is that not enough for you?Randall McNally said:
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Randall McNally
Secrecy and accountability cannot coexist.
Ah, so gay people have a habit of disclosing to you that they are actually heterosexuals who consciously decide to be attracted to the same sex out of... I don't know, some drive to be as sinful and socially outcast as possible?wannabsuprman said:
I'm sorry, I just have a hard time believing that.
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Where in the bible does it speak against homosexuality? Can someone show me coz i have a couple of points to make on it, but just can't remember where, coz my point can't really be made with out it.
Dating is a new - this society, culture - thing. And i think the question isn't is dating wrong?, but what is the purpose of dating. If you are talking 'dating' as going for a drink with a friend, and nothing sexual is thought of or occurs (IN ANY WAY!) . But i gather we talking about dating with a 'romanitc' purpose in mind. So where do we go from here? i think the question now is what is the purpose of this type of dating. Is it marriage or just a 'fling'. Now for both of them we see how it is wrong. God said to us through (solomon??) in proverbs to "Guard our hearts" and this is in relationship to dating too, because as we let people in our hearts can be broken from the inside so to speak. This breaks down the fling idea as well as the verses "do unto your neighbour, as you want done unto you", "love your neighbour as yourself" and others alike this. So with that we can't go having flings as we are going to hurt others and break gods "first equal(pretty much anyway)" commandment. Now for dating with the purpose of marriage?? Wasn't that clearly said in the verses about no homosexuality, as one of the purposes of marriage is the sexual side and reproduction (or whatever that word is) and clearly it is not possible (reproduction) in a same sex relationship.
Dating is a new - this society, culture - thing. And i think the question isn't is dating wrong?, but what is the purpose of dating. If you are talking 'dating' as going for a drink with a friend, and nothing sexual is thought of or occurs (IN ANY WAY!) . But i gather we talking about dating with a 'romanitc' purpose in mind. So where do we go from here? i think the question now is what is the purpose of this type of dating. Is it marriage or just a 'fling'. Now for both of them we see how it is wrong. God said to us through (solomon??) in proverbs to "Guard our hearts" and this is in relationship to dating too, because as we let people in our hearts can be broken from the inside so to speak. This breaks down the fling idea as well as the verses "do unto your neighbour, as you want done unto you", "love your neighbour as yourself" and others alike this. So with that we can't go having flings as we are going to hurt others and break gods "first equal(pretty much anyway)" commandment. Now for dating with the purpose of marriage?? Wasn't that clearly said in the verses about no homosexuality, as one of the purposes of marriage is the sexual side and reproduction (or whatever that word is) and clearly it is not possible (reproduction) in a same sex relationship.
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Not everyone believes it's a sin, and not everyone believes it makes you a social outcast. I guess it just depends who you talk to.Randall McNally said:
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Homosexuals may associate with whomever they please as long as they are not committing a sin. They may go to movies together, visit museums, have dinner, go camping, water skiing, whatever. Having sexual relations with a person of the same sex is a sin; lusting for any person one is not married to is a sin, but loving (i.e., caring for and enjoying the company of) another person is never a sin if it is done purely.
For example, I love my friend's wife, but in a strictly platonic fellow Christian/friend manner. I would not show disrespect for her, my friend, and especially not my own wife (all of whom I also love but to differing degrees) by wanting to have sex with my friend's wife, much less actually doing the deed.
For example, I love my friend's wife, but in a strictly platonic fellow Christian/friend manner. I would not show disrespect for her, my friend, and especially not my own wife (all of whom I also love but to differing degrees) by wanting to have sex with my friend's wife, much less actually doing the deed.
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