Darwinian evolution - still a theory in crisis.

[Ophiolite]

Math can take a hike then.

You can count on that.

 

[Hvizsgyak]

You don't know what snobbery is, do you?

snob​

(snŏb)
n.
1. One who despises, ignores, or is patronizing to those he or she considers inferior.
2. One who is convinced of his or her superiority in matters of taste or intellect.

noun
snobbery (noun) · snobberies (plural noun)

1. the character or quality of being a snob:
   "the worst aspects of English class snobbery"

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

snob​

(snŏb)
n.
1. One who despises, ignores, or is patronizing to those he or she considers inferior.
2. One who is convinced of his or her superiority in matters of taste or intellect.

noun
snobbery (noun) · snobberies (plural noun)

1. the character or quality of being a snob:
   "the worst aspects of English class snobbery"

Copying the definition from an online dictionary only shows that you can copy the definition from an online dictionary.

Making a list of scientists with Steve as a first is not snobbery. Making a list of scientists, many of whom aren't biologists, to try and show that evolution is incorrect isn't snobbery either, actually. It's an appeal to authority, sure, but not snobbery. It's wrong and incorrect but not snobbery.

 

[Larniavc]

does mean I can't present an argument against evolution

Go on then; do so.

 

[FaithT]

I beg to differ. I am finding more scientific people each day questioning evolution or Darwinism.

Over 1,000 Scientists Openly Dissent From Evolution Theory

Over 1,000 doctoral scientists from around the world have signed a "Dissent" statement expressing skepticism about Darwin's evolution theory. by Alex Newman

thenewamerican.com

Five Years Ago, Gelernter Gave Up on Darwin | Evolution News and Science Today

David Gelernter is one of a growing number of scientists and thinkers bold enough to look beyond a Darwinian paradigm.

evolutionnews.org

I agree these people are Creationists or Intelligent Design followers but they are starting to realize Darwinism isn't all that it is cracked up to be.

Like who?

 

[FaithT]

Whether this is the same group of scientists, it doesn't say. But if this is how science responds to their skeptics, well, I don't blame people for not believing sciences theories. Such a snobbish group of people at the National Center for Science Education. There seems to be alot of snobbery in the sciences.

Ok, this is really bugging me. “A lot” is two words, not one.

 

[Larniavc]

Not even joking on that one. I managed to scrape by with a C grade.

Count me into the C club for Maths GCSE. My wife got an A, though.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Count me into the C club for Maths GCSE. My wife got an A, though.

I got an A* (Star to those who don't know UK grades) in my GCSE History. Then I got two U's at A-levels...

 

[sjastro]

Of the 1500 odd Steves which greatly outnumber the 1000 odd opposed to evolution here is a Steve breakdown.

Alphabetically first Steve
Stephen T. Abedon

Chronologically first Steve
Stephen Burnett (Steve #1)

Prior Steve
Steven J. Prior (Steve #587)

Alphabetically last Steve
Steven W. Zucker

Chronologically last Steve (so far)
Steve Colvin (Steve #1488)

Most common Steve surname
Smith, with 10 Steves: Stephen A. Smith, Stephen J. Smith, Stephen M. Smith, Stephen S. Smith, Steve Smith, Steve E. Smith, Steven J. Smith, Steven J. Smith, Steven O. Smith, and Steven Thomas Smith.

Most seasonal Steve
Stephen Winter. Honorary mentions: Stefan Sommer, Stefan Sommer.

Most lupine Steve
Steven J. Wolf. Honorary mentions: Stefan Leo Wolff, Stephen S. Wolff.

Most vulpine Steve
A two-way tie: Stephen Fox, Stephen L. Fox.

Steve with the most Nobel prizes
A two-way tie: Steven Chu, Steven Weinberg.

Steve with the most appearances on The Simpsons
Stephen W. Hawking

Most colorful Steve
Plenty of contestants — two Blacks, seven Browns, three Greens (and one Greene), two Roses, two Whites — but the prize has to go to Steve #4, who isn't merely pink: he's Pinker.

Steve with the shortest surname
Stephen So

Steve with the short surname
A two-way tie: Stephen J. Short, Steven M. Short.

Steve with the longest surname
A two-way tie: Stefanos Papanikolopoulos, Steve Stewart-Williams. Honorable mention: Steve Cronen-Townsend, Stefan G. Llewellyn Smith.

Steve with the long surname
Stephen P. Long

Steve with the most exotic variant of Steve
Two-way tie: Istvan Kecskes, Tapani Salmi.

The family that most Steves together
Two-way tie: Steven Piantadosi and Steven T. Piantadosi (father and son); Steve G. Belovich and Stephanie J. Belovich (brother and sister).

Most regal Steve
Five-way tie: Stephen J. King, Stephen J. King, Steve King, Steven C. King, Steven C. King.

Most authoritative Steve
Stephen K. Boss

The kiloSteve
Steven P. Darwin (Steve #1000)

Steve with the highest diacritical mark density in surname
Steeve Côté (50%)

Most stochastic Steve
Two-way tie: Steven Fortune, Steven J. Luck.

Steve most disappointed by the Project Steve degree requirement
Three-way tie: former NCSE employee Stephen E. "Skip" Evans (B.S.), former NCSE employee Steven Newton (M.S.), current NCSE employee Stepheny Lin Andrews (M.S.).

Steve most likely to be confused with an "intelligent design" creationist
Stephen C. Meyers. Honorable mention: Steven Myers, Steven F. Myers, Steven T. Myers.

 

[Larniavc]

I would rather be a person who knows a certain amount of each scientific topic than one who is obesely absorbed in one scientific topic. One sees better when they have an overall view of any topic.

Try being both it’s obesely important.

Your shock at people on this site having depth as well as breadth of knowledge is a bit of a puzzler.

Is this pond too big?

 

[FaithT]

Not even joking on that one. I managed to scrape by with a C grade.

I HATE math. I always have.

 

[Larniavc]

I got an A* (Star to those who don't know UK grades) in my GCSE History. Then I got two U's at A-levels...

I got a U in Chemistry A level. I didn’t go to uni that year I can tell you

 

[Hvizsgyak]

Well, we made it to page 60. Not sorry to say, but nothing any of you said made me believe man evolved from a single cell organism through millions of years. I'll continue to promote that evolution has lots of holes in it to everyone I speak to about it. It has been a pleasure.

 

[FaithT]

Well, we made it to page 60. Not sorry to say, but nothing any of you said made me believe man evolved from a single cell organism through millions of years. I'll continue to promote that evolution has lots of holes in it to everyone I speak to about it. It has been a pleasure.

I feel the same exact way about creationism.

 

[Ophiolite]

I feel the same exact way about creationism.

The difference is that, I suspect, your position on creationism is based on attention to the facts, rather than commitment to a predetermined belief.

 

[FaithT]

The difference is that, I suspect, your position on creationism is based on attention to the facts, rather than commitment to a predetermined belief.

Yes.

 

[Hans Blaster]

How many have you taken where that wasn't the case?

All of them.

 

[BCP1928]

Well, we made it to page 60. Not sorry to say, but nothing any of you said made me believe man evolved from a single cell organism through millions of years. I'll continue to promote that evolution has lots of holes in it to everyone I speak to about it. It has been a pleasure.

You are not required to "believe" it, and nobody really cares whether you do or not. Nobody really "believes" it, we just accept it provisionally as the best explanation of the development of life since its beginning currently available (whether it has "lots of holes in it" or not). The theory of evolution is no different in that respect than any other viable scientific theory.

 

[AV1611VET]

Either you believe what your professor tells you, or you'll fail his course.

How many university classes have you taken where that was the case?

How many have you taken where that wasn't the case?

All of them.

So if I take it and stick to my belief that there are only nine planets in the solar system it won't affect my grade?

Maybe I should put "Genghis Khan" down for my name?

 

[BCP1928]

So if I take it and stick to my belief that there are only nine planets in the solar system it won't affect my grade?

Maybe I should put "Genghis Khan" down for my name?

In what university science class did you have that experience?