Darwin Confesses evolution not being conceivable!

[Pete Harcoff]

Yes, and it helps explain that there are not more Christian scientists. The guy had no business dictating the humanist religon to his students and forcing them to believe it.

First, evolution is not a religion. It is science. End sentence.

He also didn't force anyone to believe it. The issue was surrounding recommendations for grad school. There is no rule that he has to give recommendations to anyone.

Let me ask you, if a history prof required his students to affirm that WW2 took place, would you object? What about if a physicist required his students to affirm the theory of gravity?

Evolution is not observible nor repeatable.

Wrong. Evolution is observable. Repeatable is a little trickier, since the evolutionary process is such that become of the dynamics of the environment, one will never get the same results. We can thank Chaos Theory for that. But plenty of lab experiments have been carried out with regards to evolution. Last time I did a PubMed search for "evolution" I received over 120 000 research papers on the subject.

 

[Arikay]

Tell me, what is Macro Evolution?

People have, but you just wave them away and say "nope, those are transitional fossils"

If you are not willing to learn, we can not teach you, and thus we will never be able to "show you the bones" because you are unwilling to learn.

Yep, charles darwin is majorly flawed. But then again, so is macro-evolution, so I guess its all expected.
I implore you: stop your cheap insults, and SHOW ME THE BONES! I still haven't found a T-rex with a fish tail or wings.

 

[Arikay]

DNFTT

I know a few million muslims who would crash a plane into a building.

 

[Meatros]

DNFTT

I think he's just young, from his profile it says he's still in highschool (so he's probably not even learned what evolution is).

 

[Pete Harcoff]

do you remember the high school Math teacher who would fail their students if they got incorrect answers on their test?

Heh, that reminds me of the Calvin & Hobbes comic, where Calvin declares math a religion and himself a math atheist, hence he should be exempt from math in school.

 

[blixation]

If there if no God then man has no soul so the body has to be the ultimate & eternal. Emotions become smothered away and you end up killing feelings, the very heart of man is there soul. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to live without contradiction when you live without God.

Why? THE MOMENT YOU CONDEMN SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THERE IS SOME STANDARD BY WHICH TO CONDEMN IT. Its so funny that the modern day rebel has got no standard left cause he has rejected everything. THE NEW REBAL IS A SKEPTIC AND WILL NOT INTIRELY TRUST ANYTHING. HE HAS NO LAYOLTY THEREFORE, HE CAN NEVER BE A REAL REVOLUTIONIST. THE FACT, THAT HE DOUGHTS EVERYTHING GETS IN THE WAY WHEN HE WANTS TO DENOUNCE ANYTHING. FOR ALL DENOUNCEATION IMPLIES A MORAL DOCTRINE OF SOME KIND AND THE MODERN SKEPTIC DOUGHTS NOT ONLY THE INSTATUTION HE DENOUNCES BUT THE DOCTRINE BY WHICH HE DENOUNCES IT---------

By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything. When material is all that’s left, you live in a constant state of contradiction. Nothing will make sense anymore.

 

[Megachihuahua]

The professor in question IS a Christian. You can read all about his Christian background in his autobiographical sketch at his website.

http://www2.tltc.ttu.edu/dini/Personal/Dr.Dini.htm

I don't know his name, and I don't think this is the same guy.

Tell me, what is Macro Evolution?

People have, but you just wave them away and say "nope, those are transitional fossils"

If you are not willing to learn, we can not teach you, and thus we will never be able to "show you the bones" because you are unwilling to learn.

Macro Evolution is neo-darwinist-micro-mutational-evolutionary-theory, as opposed to micro evolution, which is naturaul selection.
By the way, six fossils don't seem like overwhelming evidence to me. They are subspecies or freaks. I see "lucy" all the time.

 

[Arikay]

Can you explain to me what this preaching has to do with Evolution or science.

You do realize Evolution does Not equal atheism, right?

If there if no God then man has no soul so the body has to be the ultimate & eternal. Emotions become smothered away and you end up killing feelings, the very heart of man is there soul. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to live without contradiction when you live without God.

Why? THE MOMENT YOU CONDEMN SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THERE IS SOME STANDARD BY WHICH TO CONDEMN IT. Its so funny that the modern day rebel has got no standard left cause he has rejected everything. THE NEW REBAL IS A SKEPTIC AND WILL NOT INTIRELY TRUST ANYTHING. HE HAS NO LAYOLTY THEREFORE, HE CAN NEVER BE A REAL REVOLUTIONIST. THE FACT, THAT HE DOUGHTS EVERYTHING GETS IN THE WAY WHEN HE WANTS TO DENOUNCE ANYTHING. FOR ALL DENOUNCEATION IMPLIES A MORAL DOCTRINE OF SOME KIND AND THE MODERN SKEPTIC DOUGHTS NOT ONLY THE INSTATUTION HE DENOUNCES BUT THE DOCTRINE BY WHICH HE DENOUNCES IT---------

By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything. When material is all that’s left, you live in a constant state of contradiction. Nothing will make sense anymore.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Nothing will make sense anymore.

The only thing that doesn't make sense are your wandering posts. And writing in ALL CAPS doesn't make your statements any more true, nor relevant. It just makes your post harder to read.

 

[Meatros]

If there if no God then man has no soul so the body has to be the ultimate & eternal. Emotions become smothered away and you end up killing feelings, the very heart of man is there soul. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to live without contradiction when you live without God.

Why is this? Sounds like begging the question and a non-sequitor to me.

Why? THE MOMENT YOU CONDEMN SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THERE IS SOME STANDARD BY WHICH TO CONDEMN IT. Its so funny that the modern day rebel has got no standard left cause he has rejected everything. THE NEW REBAL IS A SKEPTIC AND WILL NOT INTIRELY TRUST ANYTHING. HE HAS NO LAYOLTY THEREFORE, HE CAN NEVER BE A REAL REVOLUTIONIST. THE FACT, THAT HE DOUGHTS EVERYTHING GETS IN THE WAY WHEN HE WANTS TO DENOUNCE ANYTHING. FOR ALL DENOUNCEATION IMPLIES A MORAL DOCTRINE OF SOME KIND AND THE MODERN SKEPTIC DOUGHTS NOT ONLY THE INSTATUTION HE DENOUNCES BUT THE DOCTRINE BY WHICH HE DENOUNCES IT---------

CAPS DO NOT MAKE YOUR CASE. Are you trying the argument from morality?

Again, this isn't evidence.

By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything. When material is all that’s left, you live in a constant state of contradiction. Nothing will make sense anymore.

You do realize that an omnipotent God is a contradiction, right?

So nothing makes sense to anyone-right? That's what you are saying, correct?

 

[Meatros]

Macro Evolution is neo-darwinist-micro-mutational-evolutionary-theory, as opposed to micro evolution, which is naturaul selection.
By the way, six fossils don't seem like overwhelming evidence to me. They are subspecies or freaks. I see "lucy" all the time.

Maybe in bizarro world, Mega, unfortunately for you, that's not what evolution is.

Incidentally, isn't one transitional too many?

 

[blixation]

The only thing that doesn't make sense are your wandering posts. And writing in ALL CAPS doesn't make your statements any more true, nor relevant.

sorry about the caps. Even though it doesn't make my statments any more true doesn't mean i'm not planting a seed of absolute truth from God.

 

[Arikay]

Not a good definition.

Give me a better explination of Macro Evolution.
Tell me why it is not natural selection.

There are more than just 6.
However, can you tell me what 6 you think there are?

I don't know his name, and I don't think this is the same guy.
Macro Evolution is neo-darwinist-micro-mutational-evolutionary-theory, as opposed to micro evolution, which is naturaul selection.
By the way, six fossils don't seem like overwhelming evidence to me. They are subspecies or freaks. I see "lucy" all the time.

 

[Meatros]

Mega, read this http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-definition.htmland then get back to us, okay?

 

[Megachihuahua]

I think he's just young, from his profile it says he's still in highschool (so he's probably not even learned what evolution is).

I think I know more about it than you, actually. Evolution:
Natuaral selection allows only the fit to survive, so when a positive mutation comes along only the mutants survive, and this goes on for trillions of generations, and so will all become green slime and create giant turtles!

 

[Meatros]

sorry about the caps. Even though it doesn't make my statments any more true doesn't mean i'm not planting a seed of absolute truth from God.

You are right, however you seem to be missing the point. You are trying to assert God into existence, and unfortunately you aren't doing a very convincing job.

Evidence is what is required.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Even though it doesn't make my statments any more true doesn't mean i'm not planting a seed of absolute truth from God.

If that's what you are trying to do, then you are in the wrong forum. This is a science forum. Go to Apologetics if you want to convert the non-believers.

 

[Meatros]

I think I know more about it than you, actually. Evolution:
Natuaral selection allows only the fit to survive, so when a positive mutation comes along only the mutants survive, and this goes on for trillions of generations, and so will all become green slime and create giant turtles!

Natural selection is a mechanism of evolution, not evolution itself.

 

[Megachihuahua]

Not a good definition.

Give me a better explination of Macro Evolution.
Tell me why it is not natural selection.

There are more than just 6.
However, can you tell me what 6 you think there are?

Argh, fine, it's the combination of mutations and naturaul selections. But how much do you know about christians?

 

[Meatros]

Argh, fine, it's the combination of mutations and naturaul selections? But how much do you know about christians?

I wouldn't go that route with Arikay, judging from his posts and your posts, I'd reckon he knows more about christians then you do.