http://www.plasmauniverse.info/downloads/AdvancesII.annotated.pdf
Your ad hom crutch is both ironic, and stale.
Why do I need any DM in the first place?
Where is the secton on the Bullet Cluster?
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http://www.plasmauniverse.info/downloads/AdvancesII.annotated.pdf
Your ad hom crutch is both ironic, and stale.
Why do I need any DM in the first place?
You're right of course, but even by *their* (gas rather than plasma) standards, it's easy enough to understand why the plasma interacts and collides whereas the stars do not. LM acts like the mass located in suns must be 'magical' simply because the stars didn't collide, and pass on through. Apparently great distances between suns are a form of "magic" to LM.
No, you claimed "We KNOW there is something there exerting gravity (or something like gravity), because, again, we can measure it." We have only observations, and hypothesis that only considers the gravitational force, while ignoring everything else.
We have measured no gravitational force at all, or any force for that matter
Yes, and that placeholder is plasma and electric currents, that is confirmed even in laboratory experiments, that somehow becomes black holes when discussing astrophysics. The problem is astronomers refuse to give up their exotic claims for that placeholder, for a force we have observed everywhere we have gone and taken a measurement, electric fields and electric currents. Instead they stick to their tired old theory, because they refuse to admit they have been wrong for close to 100 years. Instead they will continue to waste billions of tax payers dollars searching for an exotic particle that does not exist. But exclaim with a 98% certainty that these particles exist, when their own studies place the odds at .19% greater than just a noise only detection. How one is 98% certain from a theory that is only .19% better than just plain random noise is beyond me, unless that 98% certainty is more a matter of faith and wishful thinking.
I have 2 points for you.
1. science is not about taking sides, it's a collective effort to find out how the universe works.
What's the point in *testing* them if you won't abide by the results and modify your theory accordingly? Where does the *dogma* end if not in the lab?This "you've had.." talk is ridiculous. "We' didn't have anything. Physicists are positing ideas and testing them. MOST ideas that are presented in science turn out to be wrong after testing. And that's fine.
So far it's proven to be nothing more than a placeholder term for plasma that the mainstream has finally found, but simply ignores anyway! They haven't even updated their model even one time as a result of any of their recent findings of additional mass. Furthermore, all their claims of knowledge about what 'dark matter isn't' have been *falsified repeatedly* since their falsified claims were first written!2. 4th time. "dark matter" is not a specific thing. It's a place holder.
If your statement were actually true, they would not be claiming it's not composed of baryonic matter, nor could they claim to know *exactly* how much there is.These "exotic matter theories" you speak off, are pretty much irrelavent to the point about dark matter.
I'm not complaining about them claiming to know what it is made of, I'm complaining about them claiming to know what it *isn't* made of!It's not a thing. It's a place holder. We know there is something, but we don't know what. We need a name to refer to that which we know exists but are unable to explain. No physicist claims to know what it is. It could very well be that it turns out to be something really unexpected (in fact, I'ld say that that is most likely). But it does not matter at all to the point being made. There is something have an observable effect. We don't know what it is nore what its properties are. But it's there.
When did I claim to have everything figured out again? Peratt figured out how to do away with the need for exotic forms of matter, not me.I find it hilarious that you apparantly think that you have it all figured out.
Dogma dies hard, particularly dogma that lacks empirical laboratory support.Why isn't this information rocking the scientific community as we speak?
You don't know enough about EU/PC theory to know the answer, nor have you debated the mainstream in cyberspace for the past 9 years. You just think you know.I know the answer, but do you?
Dark Matter
The dark matter is undetectable by any electromagnetic radiation at our disposal - we can't see it in the visible range, can't detect it by radio waves at the low end of the spectrum or by the xrays at the high end of the spectrum. It appears not to interact by the electromagnetic force. The obvious question is then "How do we know it is there?" For some 80 years we have known the answer to that - it interacts by gravity and therby produces measurable results
Why aren't you on the cover of every single science magazine and on the payroll of all universities for giving lectures and thereby sharing what you apparantly know and no other physicist knows?
Why don't you have a nobel prize for solving a century old problem in physics?
It's hilarious... so, it's a conspiracy theory among astrophysicists ha?
LOL!!!
Get real, dude. Solving this problem would mean instant fame and glory for the one who does it. Do you actually really believe that nobody comes forward because they are emotionally attached to a status quo that lasted for 80+ years?
Really?
It basically comes down to dollars. They can't just admit they screwed up now, or reputations go up in flames, and reliable funding channels turn dry up. Better they build another gamma-ray camera, point it at the sky and claim WIMPS did it, and *to hell with the lab results*.
Dark Matter
The dark matter is undetectable by any electromagnetic radiation at our disposal - we can't see it in the visible range, can't detect it by radio waves at the low end of the spectrum or by the xrays at the high end of the spectrum.
It appears not to interact by the electromagnetic force.
The obvious question is then "How do we know it is there?" For some 80 years we have known the answer to that - it interacts by gravity and therby produces measurable results
Isn't that the claim that most crackpot theories have in common?
I would also ask, if it is so obvious these scientists screwed up and have it wrong, why haven't the people who give them the grant money figured it out?
Is that really what you've been reduced to now? You have nothing but ad homs to try to make up for all your lack of empirical support in terms of justifying any real cause/effect relationships? It's just my fault that all three of those last 'tests' you did on exotic matter came up empty too?
Your last paragraph sums up my feelings exactly. Very very difficult for me to fathom, of all the physicists in the world, they are all intimidated into not discovering evidence that would make the plasma theory acceptable.
The difference is that the EU/PC community has published and put forth their own peer reviewed support and they do have *real and actual* evidence to support an *opposing* theory.It is similar to those who believe all of science has banded together to agree on evolution, just to prove the bible wrong and not one person, has been able to provide evidence to show evolution is wrong.
There's a certain amount of irony in that paragraph from my vantage point. Three straight lab failures, yet they want to believe in it so badly, they just don't care. The mainstream constantly tries to 'trash' EU/PC theory, but always by citing *random websites*, never based on *published* material. Same dance as creationists, different tune.It really comes down to one wanting so bad to believe in something, that they will hang on to whatever tidbit they have to support their belief, while they in turn trash everything else that goes against it.
Is it my fault that the Bullet Cluster continues to evidence exotic matter?
Appeal to authority much? Did that agreement help them find anything at LUX or LHC?Is it my fault that the scientific community agrees that it is evidence?
Why would anyone bother? 99+ percent of the known material universe is in the plasma state. What else would it be? Evidence?Is it my fault that not a single researcher has published a paper demonstrating that the observations in the Bullet Cluster are due to plasma?
Persecuted? Ya, they've been persecuting me unmercifully while they falsified all their popular exotic matter claims for me over the last 18 months. They persecuted the heck out of me when they found all that million degree plasma around our galaxy in 2012 too. They persecuted me no end when they told me the botched the galaxy mass estimates by *underestimating* the stars in galaxies. Ya, I'm *so* persecuted!But when the going gets rough, just claim that you are being persecuted by a world wide scientific conspiracy. Yeah. That works.
That's just a bald faced lie as Peratt's published paper demonstrates, and Alfven's whole body of work demonstrates. Your side is the one handwaving away and random people on random websites, whereas we've been providing you with *peer reviewed* materials.Oh, and the only place to find support for my claims is on non-peer reviewed websites run by non-professionals. Yeah, that works too.
What "exotic matter" did you see in that bullet cluster data? Lensing studies tell you *absolutely nothing* about the nature of the mass that causes the lensing.
Appeal to authority much? Did that agreement help them find anything at LUX or LHC?
Persecuted? Ya, they've been persecuting me unmercifully while they falsified all their popular exotic matter claims for me over the last 18 months. They persecuted the heck out of me when they found all that million degree plasma around our galaxy in 2012 too. They persecuted me no end when they told me the botched the galaxy mass estimates by *underestimating* the stars in galaxies. Ya, I'm *so* persecuted!
That's just a bald faced lie as Peratt's published paper demonstrates, and Alfven's whole body of work demonstrates. Your side is the one handwaving away and random people on random websites, whereas we've been providing you with *peer reviewed* materials.
The distribution of the matter does. There are two areas on each side. One contains luminous matter. The other contains dark matter.
Ya, those million degree plasma clouds *slammed* into each other alright.The luminous matter interacted with other luminous matter like normal matter does,
The black holes, as well as the stars are space so far apart, they don't "hit" each other. Their momentum carries them on just as it always does. A collision with a little "wispy plasma cloud" isn't going to slow them down much.but the dark matter did not interact.
Yes, stars do that.It moved right on through without any interaction.
Even the mainstream's explanation is "relatively" correct, and I already cited a reference for you. Apparently you however believe that stars are magical because they are spaced far apart.It is the differences in characteristics between the non-interacting dark matter and the normal, luminous matter that produced the two areas of mass.
How about because they came up empty three times in a row at LHC, at LUX and again in those electron experiments? How *can* anyone actually falsify your beliefs again?I am appealing to the authorities on the matter. Why shouldn't I?
You should go with the published claims of the Nobel prize winning physicists like Hannes Alfven, or his student Anthony Peratt. What "real scientists" have any published rebuttal to any of their work?Should I go with your uneducated, unsupported, and unpublished empty claims, or go with the educated, supported, and published claims of real scientists.
Nothing is being hidden from anyone in any SDO, SOHO or TRACE images. IRIS pretty much blew their entire atmospheric theory out of the water, and SDO already *destroyed* their convection claims.I suppose they are hiding those pictures of mountains on the Sun, right?
Your debate tactics are juvenile. You insert the obligatory ad hom in every post while running away from the Nobel Prize winning authors work with your tail between your legs.Do you ever look from the outside and see the state of the PU community? Ever?
Even the mainstream explanation *nailed it*. The matter that *passes on through* are the stars and that super/ultramassive black hole. The gas/plasma is the stuff that slams into each other and "glows brightly* as a result. So what?
Dark Matter
The dark matter is undetectable by any electromagnetic radiation at our disposal - we can't see it in the visible range, can't detect it by radio waves at the low end of the spectrum or by the xrays at the high end of the spectrum. It appears not to interact by the electromagnetic force. The obvious question is then "How do we know it is there?" For some 80 years we have known the answer to that - it interacts by gravity and therby produces measurable results
Why aren't you on the cover of every single science magazine and on the payroll of all universities for giving lectures and thereby sharing what you apparantly know and no other physicist knows?
Why don't you have a nobel prize for solving a century old problem in physics?
It's hilarious... so, it's a conspiracy theory among astrophysicists ha?
LOL!!!
Get real, dude. Solving this problem would mean instant fame and glory for the one who does it. Do you actually really believe that nobody comes forward because they are emotionally attached to a status quo that lasted for 80+ years?
Really?
Ha!The Bullet Cluster ...Interesting subject indeed!Bullet Cluster
Perhaps you could enlighten us then with your assessment of what these "chains of darkness" are?I know! I know!
Any scripture which even remotely resembles addressing the specific topic at hand, (and thank God for internet bible searches, right?), even if its so far out of context you'll need a snake oil salesman to make it work, you'll make it work.