Daniel's 70th Week Future or Fulfilled? Pt1

[GLJCA]

The truth which this verse teaches is to be found in the meaning of its words, the word under question is rendered "generation" in the KJV, its meaning can be discovered at; http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=1074&version=kjv

The meaning which the KJV suggests is listed as the fourth meaning of this word. I would suggest that the KJV is not as careful in this translation as it should have been.

GENERATION
2. the whole multitude of men living at the same time
3. an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a space of 30 - 33 years

Two and three both can be used, but even if we took the fourth meaning of the word it still shows that the generation living at that time would not pass away until the things that Christ was saying came to pass.

I think the keyword even more than generation is the word "this". Jesus was referring to that generation living at that time. Therefore Matt 24 can not be speaking of the Second Coming of Christ. It is speaking of something that was going to happen in their lifetime, namely the destruction of Jerusalem.

The coming of Christ in the clouds is referring to His coming in judgement just as it did throughout all of the OT prophecies that used the same phrase. Prophecy should not be interpreted without comparing it to Old Testament prophecy. Scripture should interpret scripture. Here are a few of the verses that I am talking about.
Isa 19:1 The burden of Egypt. Behold, the LORD rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it.
Jer 4:13 Behold, he shall come up as clouds, and his chariots [shall be] as a whirlwind: his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled.
Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, [one] like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Nah 1:3 The LORD [is] slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit [the wicked]: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds [are] the dust of his feet.

Those who interpret it differently have no basis for their interpretation and can not tell you why they interpret it as the Second Coming. I have asked before, What basis does the Dispensationalist have to determine what is literal and what is figurative in New Testament prophecy?

GLJCA

 

[eph3Nine]

Daniels 70th week is a yet future event. How do I know? The bible tells me. Israels five courses of curses found in Leviticus 26 have all come to pass but ONE...one seven year time period has yet to take place...their contract with God has yet to be fulfilled. The ONLY explanation for it , is the MYSTERY program which INTERRUPTED Israels program before it played out. When this parenthetical age of GRACE is completed, Israels timeclock will again RESUME, and the time of Jacobs trouble, the last seven years, the final course of curses will indeed happen.

If folks would just read the book , rightly divided.

 

[GLJCA]

Daniels 70th week is a yet future event. How do I know? The bible tells me. Israels five courses of curses found in Leviticus 26 have all come to pass but ONE...one seven year time period has yet to take place...their contract with God has yet to be fulfilled. The ONLY explanation for it , is the MYSTERY program which INTERRUPTED Israels program before it played out. When this parenthetical age of GRACE is completed, Israels timeclock will again RESUME, and the time of Jacobs trouble, the last seven years, the final course of curses will indeed happen.

If folks would just read the book , rightly divided.

It is comical that you can't refute the scriptures that I give you all you can do is give opinion. Are you trying to convince me with opinion? That is the dispensational way. I really don't care about your opinion I would like to see you refute the scriptures. Tell me why those scriptures refute what you say the Bible says, rightly divided? The scriptures I presented show beyond a shadow of a doubt that the prophecy in Revelation and Matt 24 say the same thing, that the coming of the Lord happened in AD70. A right divider could plainly see that.

GLJCA

 

[GLJCA]

Daniels 70th week is a yet future event. How do I know? The bible tells me. Israels five courses of curses found in Leviticus 26 have all come to pass but ONE...one seven year time period has yet to take place...their contract with God has yet to be fulfilled. The ONLY explanation for it , is the MYSTERY program which INTERRUPTED Israels program before it played out. When this parenthetical age of GRACE is completed, Israels timeclock will again RESUME, and the time of Jacobs trouble, the last seven years, the final course of curses will indeed happen.

If folks would just read the book , rightly divided.

Please tell me why that when the Old Testament interprets the phrase, "the Lord coming in the clouds" as judgement, do Dispensationalists interpret it as a literal physical coming when it never was before?

How do you determine what is literal and what is figurative in New Testament prophecy?

Please don't bail out on me like others have.

GLJCA

 

[A Brother In Christ]

Please tell me why that when the Old Testament interprets the phrase, "the Lord coming in the clouds" as judgement, do Dispensationalists interpret it as a literal physical coming when it never was before?

How do you determine what is literal and what is figurative in New Testament prophecy?

Please don't bail out on me like others have.

GLJCA

example please with verses...

The Rapture is a mystery...

would be a first anwser....

 

[A Brother In Christ]

It is comical that you can't refute the scriptures that I give you all you can do is give opinion. Are you trying to convince me with opinion? That is the dispensational way. I really don't care about your opinion I would like to see you refute the scriptures. Tell me why those scriptures refute what you say the Bible says, rightly divided? The scriptures I presented show beyond a shadow of a doubt that the prophecy in Revelation and Matt 24 say the same thing, that the coming of the Lord happened in AD70. A right divider could plainly see that.

GLJCA

Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

70 ad 2 million Jew died terribbly

WWII ...50 million people died...about 10 million Jews

If WWII was the great tribulation ... since it is the worst the earth has seen
what verse would not validate this...

Revelations 6:12-14 , Revelations 16:18-20

definitely have not happened