Daniel 9:24 fulfillment

[jgr]

Daniel 9
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Those of the dispensational persuasion would have us believe that the accomplishments enumerated in Daniel 9:24 are not yet in fact accomplishments at all, but remain unfulfilled and delayed, and will only become reality at some indeterminate time in the future, when a millennial kingdom is established. The following assertion by Chuck Missler is typical:
“The scope of this prophecy includes a broad list of things which clearly have yet to be completed.”

Let us consult with the Apostle Peter.

2 Peter 1
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

What would have been the sources of Peter's conviction about a more sure word of prophecy?

One of them was undoubtedly this -- the Emmaus road experience with Jesus -- of which Peter, if not in fact present as the unnamed second disciple, would have been made well aware. Jesus' admonition was rather pointed:

Luke 24
25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Peter was with all of the other disciples who heard this from Jesus:

Luke 24
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures

Peter would certainly have been aware of this:

Acts 13
29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

Given what Peter had to say, and of what he was aware; how would Peter have viewed Daniel 9:24?

Undoubtedly he would have asked the following:

From Luke 24:25, does what is written in Daniel 9:24 qualify as being among all that the prophets have spoken?

Unquestionably it does.

From Luke 24:27, does what is written in Daniel 9:24 qualify as being among what had been spoken of Christ concerning Himself?

Unquestionably it does.


Then Peter would have of necessity reached an inexorable conclusion:

According to Christ's own words in Luke 24:44, and Paul's inspired words in Acts 13:29; Christ fulfilled everything that was written of Him, which without exception included everything in Daniel 9:24; by the time of His resurrection. Through Christ's completed work at Calvary, there was nothing left undone of the enumerated accomplishments in Daniel's inspired prophecy. All were fulfilled. Nothing remained to await a future age.

It was the epitome of fulfilled spiritual reality – past, present, and for eternity.

This is how Peter would have viewed Daniel 9:24.

This is why he could declare unreservedly that we have a more sure word of prophecy.

And this is why, contrary to Bro. Missler, we too can recognize and claim that more sure word of prophecy, and the completion and fulfillment of “all that was written of Him” in the inspired words of Daniel 9:24.

Praise to the Lamb, and His complete and perfect accomplishments at Calvary.

 

[seventysevens]

So sad that you hide from the Future so then you would learn from it ;
Amil hide from truth that stares them in the face for you think that if you don't look you won't be seen
God declared that he will bring His Israeli descendants back into her own land
Israel is the only country to be reborn and established as herself after not existing for 2000 years - bible prophecy fulfilled in the 20th Century after Jesus death
Jerusalem will soon be the capital of Israel
The temple will be built
Israel returning to her ancient language prophecy fulfilled
Israel land has become the most fertile land in the region prophecy fulfilled
The return of Ethiopian Jews return to Israel prophecy fulfilled
Plans to rebuild the temple prophecy fulfilled

The Scared Vessels for the new temple worship prophecy fulfilled
Gospel of the Kingdom being preached to ALL the world - nearly completed prophecy
only fools say this was completed in 70A.D. -just a choosing to be blind and try to blind others eyes to believing their foolish deception

Now today the Euphrates River can be made dry to the riverbed on demand - prophecy fulfilled that permits more prophecy to be fulfilled

One world government is nearing completion - in just a few more years as the list of nations in favor of this is growing rapidly

Just a handful of Future prophecies that have been fulfilled and those in process of being fulfilled
But of course understanding these truths is beyond the understanding of those who refuse to see the reality of today as it is such a jolt to their pride to acknowledge their faulty views
They will be first in line to be deceived when the False messiah comes

 

[BABerean2]

So sad that you hide from the Future so then you would learn from it ;
Amil hide from truth that stares them in the face for you think that if you don't look you won't be seen
God declared that he will bring His Israeli descendants back into her own land
Israel is the only country to be reborn and established as herself after not existing for 2000 years - bible prophecy fulfilled in the 20th Century after Jesus death
Jerusalem will soon be the capital of Israel
The temple will be built
Israel returning to her ancient language prophecy fulfilled
Israel land has become the most fertile land in the region prophecy fulfilled
The return of Ethiopian Jews return to Israel prophecy fulfilled
Plans to rebuild the temple prophecy fulfilled

The Scared Vessels for the new temple worship prophecy fulfilled
Gospel of the Kingdom being preached to ALL the world - nearly completed prophecy
only fools say this was completed in 70A.D. -just a choosing to be blind and try to blind others eyes to believing their foolish deception

Now today the Euphrates River can be made dry to the riverbed on demand - prophecy fulfilled that permits more prophecy to be fulfilled

One world government is nearing completion - in just a few more years as the list of nations in favor of this is growing rapidly

Just a handful of Future prophecies that have been fulfilled and those in process of being fulfilled
But of course understanding these truths is beyond the understanding of those who refuse to see the reality of today as it is such a jolt to their pride to acknowledge their faulty views
They will be first in line to be deceived when the False messiah comes

What is one of the greatest deceptions in the history of the Church?

Are you attempting to claim the land belongs to the Israelite Baal worshippers?
(Romans 11:1-5)

Christ revealed in Matthew 21:33-46 that He is "heir" to the land, instead of those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone". He said that the kingdom would be taken from those who reject Him.

In 1 Peter 2:4-10 Peter reveals that we are the holy nation which accepted the "chief cornerstone".


Read 1 John 2:22-23.

1Ti_1:4　 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.


Tit_3:9　 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

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[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[precepts]

The original poster is right, all has been fulfilled, and the funniest thing is that all the facts proving so are right there in the book.

Eze 21:26-27, Zech 6:12, Eze 17 - particularly verses 22 to 24, Isa 4:2, Psa 80:15, Jer 23:5-8, Acts 7:38, Lam 4:20, Psa 87:4-7, Isa 9:6 & 63:5, Isa 49:6 & 8, and Mal 3:1 all prove the fact. It was Christ who confirmed the 70 wks prophecy.

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[seventysevens]

What is one of the greatest deceptions in the history of the Church?

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The funny thing is that amil refuse to accept the FACT that bible prophecy has been fulfilled in their own lifetime , but to acknowledge this evidence of truth is to accept they are mistaken in their belief that all is fulfilled proving that you are deceived right now

 

[precepts]

Fact is fact and fiction is fiction.

 

[Davy]

Daniel 9
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Those of the dispensational persuasion would have us believe that the accomplishments enumerated in Daniel 9:24 are not yet in fact accomplishments at all, but remain unfulfilled and delayed, and will only become reality at some indeterminate time in the future, when a millennial kingdom is established....

If all the Dan.9:24 Scripture were finished today, then we would have no further need to look for Christ's second coming, because it would make His Revelation (which is about the end of this up to His return and thereafter) all of no value but a finished document like how you treat Dan.9:24.

 

[precepts]

If all the Dan.9:24 Scripture were finished today, then we would have no further need to look for Christ's second coming, because it would make His Revelation (which is about the end of this up to His return and thereafter) all of no value but a finished document like how you treat Dan.9:24.

Now this is funny, you speaking like an authority on a subject that is a mystery to the world, stating your opinion as if it's fact.

 

[Davy]

Now this is funny, you speaking like an authority on a subject that is a mystery to the world, stating your opinion as if it's fact.

Like disbelievers have done with speaking without knowledge, saying that the Dan.9:24 Scripture is completed, and that Dispensationalists are wrong. (I'm not a Dispensationalist and I know better than to declare Dan.9:24 as finished.)

 

[precepts]

Like disbelievers have done with speaking without knowledge, saying that the Dan.9:24 Scripture is completed, and that Dispensationalists are wrong. (I'm not a Dispensationalist and I know better than to declare Dan.9:24 as finished.)

And I know better than to try to prove you wrong and to prove me right at the same time using the facts, too. It's that kind of world.

 

[Davy]

That Daniel 9:24 has yet to be finished is so... simple. It doesn't need to be tied to any doctrine of men to realize it easily, not linked to Dispensationalism nor any other false relation used to try and sway the believer away from its simple declarations:

Dan 9:24
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
KJV

70 sevens ("weeks") involving Daniel's people, i.e., Israel in the "holy city" Jerusalem.

"to finish the transgression" - the transgression of Dan.8:11-14 and Dan.11:30-32, which is the transgression of desolation, i.e. , the "abomination of desolation" idol; what Jesus warned of in Matt.24 about the coming pseudo-Christ to Jerusalem working great signs and wonders that if possible, would even deceive Christ's very elect.

"make an end of sins" and "make reconciliation for iniquity" - remember, this prophecy is for Jerusalem and her people. Have they stopped sinning today in Jerusalem? No, of course not, because the majority of the Jews in Jerusalem still refuse Christ Jesus as Messiah. Many of them no longer even expect the coming of Messiah.

"bring in everlasting righteousness" - this is for Jerusalem and the Jews per the prophecy. Has that really happened today? Of course not. People yelling peace there and there is no... peace, because the everlasting righteousness there will ONLY occur with Jesus Christ's return there.

"seal up the vision and prophecy" - this means the whole vision and prophecy Daniel was shown, including the events of Dan.11 & 12, which are about the end and the "abomination of desolation" idol to be setup in Jerusalem for the end, i.e., the "image of the beast" our Lord Jesus warned us about in His Revelation through His servant John.

"to anoint the most Holy" - this is a reference to the future Millennium temple of the Book of Ezekiel, a sanctuary Christ Jesus will build when He returns. This is not... the sanctuary the false Jews in Jerusalem in our near future along with the coming "vile person" are going to try and fake.

 

[DavidPT]

Daniel 9
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Those of the dispensational persuasion would have us believe that the accomplishments enumerated in Daniel 9:24 are not yet in fact accomplishments at all, but remain unfulfilled and delayed, and will only become reality at some indeterminate time in the future, when a millennial kingdom is established. The following assertion by Chuck Missler is typical:
“The scope of this prophecy includes a broad list of things which clearly have yet to be completed.”

Let us consult with the Apostle Peter.

2 Peter 1
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

What would have been the sources of Peter's conviction about a more sure word of prophecy?

One of them was undoubtedly this -- the Emmaus road experience with Jesus -- of which Peter, if not in fact present as the unnamed second disciple, would have been made well aware. Jesus' admonition was rather pointed:

Luke 24
25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Peter was with all of the other disciples who heard this from Jesus:

Luke 24
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures

Peter would certainly have been aware of this:

Acts 13
29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

Given what Peter had to say, and of what he was aware; how would Peter have viewed Daniel 9:24?

Undoubtedly he would have asked the following:

From Luke 24:25, does what is written in Daniel 9:24 qualify as being among all that the prophets have spoken?

Unquestionably it does.

From Luke 24:27, does what is written in Daniel 9:24 qualify as being among what had been spoken of Christ concerning Himself?

Unquestionably it does.


Then Peter would have of necessity reached an inexorable conclusion:

According to Christ's own words in Luke 24:44, and Paul's inspired words in Acts 13:29; Christ fulfilled everything that was written of Him, which without exception included everything in Daniel 9:24; by the time of His resurrection. Through Christ's completed work at Calvary, there was nothing left undone of the enumerated accomplishments in Daniel's inspired prophecy. All were fulfilled. Nothing remained to await a future age.

It was the epitome of fulfilled spiritual reality – past, present, and for eternity.

This is how Peter would have viewed Daniel 9:24.

This is why he could declare unreservedly that we have a more sure word of prophecy.

And this is why, contrary to Bro. Missler, we too can recognize and claim that more sure word of prophecy, and the completion and fulfillment of “all that was written of Him” in the inspired words of Daniel 9:24.

Praise to the Lamb, and His complete and perfect accomplishments at Calvary.

Speaking of how Peter viewed something, consider the following.

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


The text says the following for one----and to bring in everlasting righteousness

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


It seems to me that if everlasting righteousness has already been brought in, and that Peter too agreed with that, he would not have then still been waiting for a time in the future, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Everlasting righteousness means exactly what it says, righteousness that endures forever. If that is already here, how can that somehow be topped by the righteousness Peter was still looking for in the future?

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[DavidPT]

(I'm not a Dispensationalist and I know better than to declare Dan.9:24 as finished.)

This fits me as well. Neither am I a Dispensationalist, yet I too know better than to declare Dan.9:24 as finished.

 

[BABerean2]

The funny thing is that amil refuse to accept the FACT that bible prophecy has been fulfilled in their own lifetime , but to acknowledge this evidence of truth is to accept they are mistaken in their belief that all is fulfilled proving that you are deceived right now

Lord Rothschild reveals how his family created the modern State of Israel, in his own words.

The Rothschild family is not God.


The land of the Rothschild's is one of the greatest deceptions in the history of the Church.
It is a "Trojan Horse" of the globalist's plan.

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[Davy]

Lord Rothschild reveals how his family created the modern State of Israel, in his own words.

The Rothschild family is not God.


The land of the Rothschild's is one of the greatest deceptions in the history of the Church.
It is a "Trojan Horse" of the globalist's plan.

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He did no such thing.

The modern state of Israel was created by U.N. charter vote of the nations. The U.S. voted for creation of course.

 

[DavidPT]

Lord Rothschild reveals how his family created the modern State of Israel, in his own words.

The Rothschild family is not God.


The land of the Rothschild's is one of the greatest deceptions in the history of the Church.
It is a "Trojan Horse" of the globalist's plan.

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Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

So who's side are you on here then? If you include yourself on the side that gathers against Jerusalem to battle, you do realize you are going to lose, don't you?

Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Me, I'm not foolish enough to want to come against Jerusalem to battle.

 

[BABerean2]

Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

So who's side are you on here then? If you include yourself on the side that gathers against Jerusalem to battle, you do realize you are going to lose, don't you?

Zechariah 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Me, I'm not foolish enough to want to come against Jerusalem to battle.

Which Jerusalem?

Rev 11:8　 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.　

Are you talking about the city above that is spiritually like Sodom and Egypt?

Are you talking about the city of bondage in Galatians chapter 4?


Gal 4:25　 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.　
Gal 4:26　 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.　


I have no plans to go to earthly Jerusalem.
My future home is heavenly Jerusalem. (Hebrews 11:15-16)

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