Daniel 2:43

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Ok now I understand your point of view better. But I still disagree. So you think Yeshua had the mark of the beast then? Since He and the apostles used coins minted by the Romans?

That's okay, Torah Keeper. I'm used to disagreement. Not a problem.

Jesus walked the fine line between giving to Caesar the things which were Caesar's and to God the things that were God's. You and I have to do the same in these days when our government takes our taxpayer money from us and then uses it to fund Godless projects and institutions that are a stench in God's nostrils. The heart's fealty is what God is looking for above all things. Those in Christ's days who were trusting in their nation's participation with the pagan Roman system to further their own financial interests - their hearts were in the wrong place. On the other hand, those first-century Zealots who hated the Roman system with a passion were actually looking for a military-type Savior of their nation - not a spiritual Savior. Their hearts were in the wrong place as well.

The "mark" of the Sea Beast - the Tyrian shekel - had no power in and of itself. The apostle Paul would have said so, too, in his teaching regarding meat offered to idols. It is the human heart giving misplaced homage to that idol which makes it so abominable in God's eyes.

How were coins a mark on the right hand or forehead?

This "mark" was "received in the right hand" by the moneychangers putting these Tyrian shekels in the right hands of those exchanging their foreign currency for this required coin in the Temple. The "right hand" is symbolic of honor and blessing in scripture. Not what should have been associated with an abomination like the Tyrian shekel.

A set of these Tyrian shekels was also fastened in the forehead of a woman's headdress in those days, which showed her marital status. To lose one of this set of shekel coins was regarded as the equivalent of a woman today losing her wedding ring. Like the woman in the parable who swept the entire house trying to find her lost Tyrian shekel coin, and rejoicing when she found it, making the set of coins complete once more.

 

[Torah Keeper]

I still think you are really grasping for straws to support your preterist view.

Wouldn't Yeshua and the apostles have used these Tyrian coins also? How would they have avoided it? And if not, did Yeshua and the apostles have the mark of the beast then? It makes no sense to me.

When prophecies start being fulfilled before our eyes then we will know the truth.

 

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Wouldn't Yeshua and the apostles have used these Tyrian coins also? How would they have avoided it? And if not, did Yeshua and the apostles have the mark of the beast then? It makes no sense to me.

It wasn't enough just to be holding those particular coins in the hand. It seems that scripture puts the emphasis on the person's offense being their "worship" or "homage" given to that image made in honor of the Sea Beast, instead of giving that worship to God, who alone was to be worshipped as the maker of heaven, earth, the sea, and the fountain of waters (Rev. 14:7).

"If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, ..." etc.. This is the whole "in the world, but not of it" principle.

What confirms for me that this "mark" surrounding the Sea Beast is related to those ancient days and not our future is the clue we are given about what that Sea Beast's current identity was back in John's days. Revelation 13:2 says that the Dragon (Satan) gave to that Sea Beast his own throne. That particular throne of Satan is identified for us back in Revelation 2:13. It was located in the city of Pergamos, where Satan dwelt, and was the place where the faithful Antipas was eventually martyred for Christ.

That throne of Satan in Pergamos was given to the Roman republic back in 133 BC by the dying King Attalus, who had no heir to whom he could pass his kingdom. So, in his will he bequeathed his entire Pergamum kingdom in Asia along with its "throne", the 40' tall altar to Zeus in the Pergamos capital, to his ally, the Roman republic. This was recorded in the Senate's records.

This means the ancient Roman republic was connected with the Sea Beast identity. Which was part of the past, 666-year old history of this Sea Beast.