Daniel 12-time of the end

[Blissman]

Christ forgives us for our sins but forgiveness does not prevent us from sinning. Man is sinful by knowing of good and evil. We have free will, and choose to, or are deceived in to sinning. Satan will not help us from ourselves, rather he will exploit our weaknesses.
War is organized sinning; mass murder, often torture, theft, hatred, and there is rape. If by some power, Satan had stopped wars, do you think that this would end all sins? Man murders, steals, rapes, and all sorts of sins and horrors without war. Satan would have to save man from sinning to affect us, and surely Satan will not prevent us from sinning. We must choose to follow the Lord's laws, to love God and our fellow man. Christ forgives us for our sins but He also ordains that we not sin.

Rev 20:13

13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.

Rev 22:12

12"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.


Rev 21:8
8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

Clearly, Christ's forgiveness of our sins is not a 'meal ticket' to freely sin, but rather a forgiveness of our imperfection of sinfulness by birth.


And now a question: As we are imperfect by our nature, sinners at birth, man could, I suppose, choose not to accept Christ by reason that his decision making ability is impaired by man being imperfect, and thus not able to choose Christ. Is man forgiven for his weakness?

 

[mysteryman]

i do not agreee with your premise, God my Father did not make me imperfect because i am made in His image, and He is Perfect and Jesus said over, and over and over repeating the Holy Prophets "be perfect", like you Father in heaven is perfect"______________ so get your mind straight on what is. you are howeve born into sin culture, i don't see to many babie ssin in there first five months of life but i do see them being introduced into sin culture, sound vibratons, and into habits that are not accetable to God. _______ now if you want to start from there, and at what age do you think accounataility for accepting Christ. As in my case , i cannot remember when i did not know God in my life for He was in me as early as i can remember and revealing Himself in dreams that i can still remember. so not all can say or have to say choose some can say sent as in the case of Smuel, Jeremiah David even Moses. Hear carefully whom God does send even Johmn the Baptist, as prphesied along side Jesus and his intmate confident._______________ man can be forgeiven for all sins but excuses of following the law is a different story. eg the law posted says 60MPH, break it one ticket , break it again 2,and finally jail. so weakness or foolishness you make the call!

 

[Blissman]

God had made man perfect, but man sinned when s/he ate from the tree of knowlege. We have been forever tainted because we have free will and we choose to do what God had said we may not do. This fruit of knowlege is the original sin.

 

[mysteryman]

However,Blissman, you do accept that men in the OT times did live unto righteousness and were admitted into the kingdom . AS Jesus said though Samuel, Job and Elijah were there,. People were born into sin culteres look at Moses , born into idolators, hindhu likeness culture, but God spoke to the Jewish born Hindu-Egyptian raised. and he became the mouth of God. _______ now having said that 'the new spirit that is put into you by the Holy Spirit' that is in the sons coming, will give you the breath of living waters and your life will be forever changed and you shall walk into the heartland of God's promise, and you shall sin no more. _________ Do you see the understanding? born in sin culture yes, but not always having to remain tied to the sin culture and their evil ways. otherwise where's the promise?_____________ your PHD pulpit preachers will tell when you die, but trust not in post dated checks of a million dollars on your death day , for what good is it, your dead?, believe in the living word and that the living word will be fulfilled as it is written. or i'm a deeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddd man.

 

[Blissman]

See posts 3 and 4 of this thread, also. But do they refer to everyone, or to a few? You will be a dead man. You do not have to live in a sinful society to be sinful, as you are born sinful. No mortal lives without sin.

 

[Blissman]

i do not agreee with your premise, God my Father did not make me imperfect because i am made in His image, and He is Perfect and Jesus said over, and over and over repeating the Holy Prophets "be perfect", like you Father in heaven is perfect"______________ so get your mind straight on what is. you are howeve born into sin culture, i don't see to many babie ssin in there first five months of life but i do see them being introduced into sin culture, sound vibratons, and into habits that are not accetable to God. _______ now if you want to start from there, and at what age do you think accounataility for accepting Christ. As in my case , i cannot remember when i did not know God in my life for He was in me as early as i can remember and revealing Himself in dreams that i can still remember. so not all can say or have to say choose some can say sent as in the case of Smuel, Jeremiah David even Moses. Hear carefully whom God does send even Johmn the Baptist, as prphesied along side Jesus and his intmate confident._______________ finally jail. so weakness or foolishness you make the call!

man can be forgeiven for all sins but excuses of following the law is a different story. eg the law posted says 60MPH, break it one ticket , break it again 2,and

 

[Blissman]

"ok , i thank you for the info, but i'll not waste my living waters on acid rain tainted soil at this time".

I don't want acid rain, polluted air, water, or tainted foods either, that has nothing to do with when the rapture will/may have occured. I don't want my family to live in an unsafe world either. I suppose that aithiests would not want to live in a mess, either.

 

[mysteryman]

i see Blissman, either you like Einstein or just like his quotes or respect him as a man. Once i went to this very big Church for 6 months or so and to the Bible study. In the classroom was a large picture of Einstein. So, one day i asked why his picture was in the room, i can't exactly recall what his response was but, i added did you know he was vegetarian in his latter years and advocated for it. The person said no. Next week the picture was gone it had been there for about a year. ?

 

[Blissman]

i see Blissman, either you like Einstein or just like his quotes or respect him as a man. Once i went to this very big Church for 6 months or so and to the Bible study. In the classroom was a large picture of Einstein. So, one day i asked why his picture was in the room, i can't exactly recall what his response was but, i added did you know he was vegetarian in his latter years and advocated for it. The person said no. Next week the picture was gone it had been there for about a year. ?

Einstein believed in God and had made several references to God in his work.

"Our situation on this earth seems strange. Every one of us appears here involuntary and uninvited for a short stay, without knowing the whys and the wherefore. In our daily lives we only feel that man is here for the sake of others, for those whom we love and for many other beings whose fate is connected with our own." ... "The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our mind cannot grasp and whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly and as a feeble reflection, this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all that there is." Einstein's speech 'My Credo' to the German League of Human Rights, Berlin, autumn 1932, Einstein: A Life in Science, Michael White and John Gribbin, Page 262.