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You guys will see.........but only after you are Raptured to heaven, Jesus will open the Seals in front of us and say SEE...........SEE.............SEE, what will soon come when that 7th Seal unlooses the Wrath of God. I already see it sister, by Faith I have asked fir wisdom and God has granted this, and affirmed his word via testing.Well, we won`t have long to see which it is.
Hi Fisherking,Revv. 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings(E.U.), which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast(They only have power over Israel/THE MANY for 1260 days thus the ONE HOUR = 1260 days also in Rev. 18:10).
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
The E.U. unlike Rome is thus not a Dictatorship, this is why its Iron AND Clay and a brittle kingdom, unlike the Iron description of Rome. The E.U. Parliament [FREELY] gives their powers unto this man, who becomes The Beast when he conquers Israel and THE MANY.
I am not sure that he will be a Greek born man. But I do agree that from Greece, he will head south east toward Israel and the middle east with a strong army.No, he's a Greek born man (Dan. 8:9), with Old Assyrian blood in his veins, who comes to power in the E.U.
Is it good that we can all post our opinion and views, agreeing/disagreeing on various issues - but doing so in a friendly, respectful way.You guys will see.........but only after you are Raptured to heaven, Jesus will open the Seals in front of us and say SEE...........SEE.............SEE, what will soon come when that 7th Seal unlooses the Wrath of God. I already see it sister, by Faith I have asked fir wisdom and God has granted this, and affirmed his word via testing.
I just wonder how friendly and respectful Jesus will be toward those who preached and promoted false theories?Is it good that we can all post our opinion and views, agreeing/disagreeing on various issues - but doing so in a friendly, respectful way.
AND? .........God did not say I made this man like Alexander the Great, God put it in the hearts of the American Congress to make George Washington President, God put in the American peoples hearts to elect Donald J. Trump in 2016, neither were dictators.Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
It does no such thing, it says God will put it in their hearts, meaning God knows their hearts and understands their are of this evil world, and that they love evil instead of God, thus he manipulated their evil heart to bring His will to pass. But they still have Free Will, and they gave their power unto this man.That verse indicates that the beast-king will become the dictator of the EU.
We do agree about the EU though.
Two totally different Wars at last 3.5 years apart.I am not sure that he will be a Greek born man. But I do agree that from Greece, he will head south east toward Israel and the middle east with a strong army.
Personally, what I think will happen is that when Gog/Magog is about happen, he will position the EU army in Greece to act as a deterrent, but that the Gog/Magog attack happens anyway.
No, sir, John 5:43 means the Pharisees and leaders of their time would accept another who came in his own name. There is zero way a Jewish nation accepts a Gentile as their Messiah. You are just hung up on this idea brother, and it ca not ever happen.The Jews of Israel will see the little horn person as their long awaited King of Israel messiah. So the person has to be a Jew. The first checkpoint to speculate on who the Antichrist is.
I agree, that is of utmost importance, we must be cordial unto each other in all things. I care about people hearing God's truths, not about being correct.Is it good that we can all post our opinion and views, agreeing/disagreeing on various issues - but doing so in a friendly, respectful way.
The Jews are looking for their King of Israel messiah (someone in their view other than Jesus). Correct, that they would never accept a Gentile as their Messiah. So the person has to be a Jew.No, sir, John 5:43 means the Pharisees and leaders of their time would accept another who came in his own name. There is zero way a Jewish nation accepts a Gentile as their Messiah. You are just hung up on this idea brother, and it ca not ever happen.
They are looking fir a Jewish Messiah which they see as a Political leader, the operative word is Jewish, they are not looking for a Gentile Messiah, this AC will be a Gentile Leader. By the time the Little Horn starts Conquering at the 1260 Middle of the [70th] week, Israel will have already accepted Jesus as their Messiah, we are told this in Zech. 13:8-9 that 1/3 of Israel repents and 2/3 will perish/die. One verse later in Zech. 13:1 we see the DOTL arrives and Jerusalem is sacked. So, Israel repents BEFORE the AC ever conquers Jerusalem. They repent via the 1335 Two-witnesses showing up 75 days before the 1260 event (DOTL) and they flee Judea 45 days later at the 1290 AoD, which happens 30 days before the AC conquers Jerusalem. The AC is not a Jew, just as none of the other 6 Beasts were led by Jews.The Jews are looking for their King of Israel messiah (someone in their view other than Jesus). Correct, that they would never accept a Gentile as their Messiah. So the person has to be a Jew.
He will not be a Jew sir, you have just grasped this notion out of thin air. He must be a Greek born man. WHY do you think God gave us every Greek King in Dan. 11? Why did he give us an Archetype in Antiochus Epiphanes? Who had a False Prophet (Jewish High Priest named Jason) Archetype under him? Because hes going to be a Greek man, and hes going to have a Jewish High Priest sidekick.There are Jews in all of the nations of the world. But we are looking for someone to be associated with the EU. I am keeping my eye on Zelenskyy. A Jew, high profile, a politician, with military experience.
Its not relevant what Jews today think, AT ALL, because as I stated the 1/3 repents BEFORE the DOTL as Malachi 4:5-6 also says. The Two-witnesses lead them unto Christ Jesus. When the AoD happens the High Priest will FORBID Jesus Worship in the temple (He TAKES AWAY.....The real Sacrifice)The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.
"Anti" - a prefix for against and/or instead of.They are looking fir a Jewish Messiah which they see as a Political leader, the operative word is Jewish, they are not looking for a Gentile Messiah, this AC will be a Gentile Leader.
Hi Douggg,Hi Marilyn,
I agree we won't have long to see. The Gog/Magog attack on Israel will be by a coalition of Muslim nations and Russia. The destruction of those armies by the God of Israel will discredit Islam's god Allah/and Muhammad, and basically end Islam.
The Assyrian of Micah 5:5 could be referring to the leader of the Muslim nations. I think also that maybe Damascus will be destroyed that day.
When you make it into heaven "pre trib." brother the first thing that is going to be said is, this one only got one thing right, he knew the blood washes away sin. So, when I look at the above quote, I think of 3 words.I just wonder how friendly and respectful Jesus will be toward those who preached and promoted false theories?
1 Corinthians 3:11-15 tells us that those who built their beliefs on a foundation other than Bible teachings, will be saved, but have to pass thru fire.
The Fire of God's rebuke.
Anti means AGAINST.......the rest you guys found a way to contort the facts to a MAYBE, their is no maybe."Anti" - a prefix for against and/or instead of.
AND? That never says nor insinuates Israel accepts a non Jewish Messiah as their king. They simply join the E.U. and thus anger God by giving away his land, THINK, was Israelis considered Roman Citizens when Jesus came? TAKE OUT THE CHURCH AGE!! Rome......Church Age......E.U. and you can see the continuation. So, they make an Agreement with the Anti-Christ who is simply an E.U. President. You have always, IMHO been someone who OVERTHINKS things on Eschatology. You can't give a verse elsewhere and the TIE a though process of your own to that event. We all now Jesus will be the King on David's throne. No where does it say Israel accepts a Nin Jew as their King. They di just the opposite, the 1/3 choose to follow Jesus and thus have to Flee Judea JUST BEFORE (KEY) the Anti-Christ conquers Jerusalem/Israel/Mediterranean Sea Region in full. The 2/3 will die............why would they die? Satan can not cast out Satan, if they served the Beast why would he kill the 2/3? So, the facts you assume are just you not thinking these things through, they put fort an AGREEMENT ONLY, and that is Israel joining the E.U. and thus giving up their Nukes, you never take that part into consideration at all do you? How can a nation with Nukes get conquered? By not having Nukes. Well how does that happen? By becoming a Member State. The E.U. helps out Israel vs. Gog & Magog and thus they fall in to Satan's trap, they even wrongly will believe the E.U. destroyed the 5/6 Armies on the Mt. of God. So, they will freely give up their Nukes to join the E.U. this kicks everything off. The Pre Trib. Rapture happens AND the 70th week starts when Israel joins the E.U.Christ - the King of Israel Mark 15:32.
AGAIN............SO !! We all know that. And al the Beast were Gentiles right? It dies not fit, nor equate.Jesus was a Jew. King of the Jews.
No, that is just your [bad] interpretation brother. One I have proven to be in error now for nigh 10 years.The Antichrist will be the King of the Jews instead of Jesus the rightful King of the Jews. He must be a Jew.
The Abomination is described in Dan 11:38 And in their place, he will honor a god of fortresses—a god his fathers did not know—with gold, silver, precious stones, and riches.Tranquil, what do you think is the abomination of desolation setup in Daniel 12:11, and where will it be setup ? And when will it be setup in the seven years? (your chart does not have the 7 years beginning and ending on it - start again and make charts that have the 7 years beginning and ending on it)
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
This is my chart of when the abomination of desolation will be setup in the 7 years - on day 1185.
Damascus, Syria will be destroyed at the 7th Trumpet, which will be the 'middle of the 7 years' as you put it.Hi Marilyn,
I agree we won't have long to see. The Gog/Magog attack on Israel will be by a coalition of Muslim nations and Russia. The destruction of those armies by the God of Israel will discredit Islam's god Allah/and Muhammad, and basically end Islam.
The Assyrian of Micah 5:5 could be referring to the leader of the Muslim nations. I think also that maybe Damascus will be destroyed that day.
I agree FK that the A/C will be a Gentile, the last Gentile Ruler of the Times of the Gentiles.They are looking fir a Jewish Messiah which they see as a Political leader, the operative word is Jewish, they are not looking for a Gentile Messiah, this AC will be a Gentile Leader.
Hi Marilyn,
The abomination of desolation will be "set up". Therefore, it has to be some sort of statue, i.e. an idol.The Abomination is described in Dan 11:38 And in their place, he will honor a god of fortresses—a god his fathers did not know—with gold, silver, precious stones, and riches.
In Ezekiel 28:12-19, the king of Tyrus (Tyre) is a code name for Satan. Just read through the text.The king of Tyre is the Dan 7 Little horn. The Assyrian is the Dan 8 Little Horn.
The abomination of desolation set up in Daniel 12:11 will be on the temple mount - the holy place that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15.It will be set up in a holy place: somewhere in Jerusalem, Rome, the West Wing of the White House? I don't know where the 1st abomination will be located.
Mark 15:32 - "Christ the King of Israel".AND? That never says nor insinuates Israel accepts a non Jewish Messiah as their king.
We agree. but you get a smidge off tracked on the Times of the Gentiles. I know why people misapply this phrase. In varied places we see times of the Gentiles and fullness of the Gentiles and we assoc. that with the Gentile trampling Jerusalem under foot in Rev. 11, but they can't be the same. Its only 42 months in Rev. 11, so elsewhere this can't be what Paul meant by the Fullness of the Gentiles. And I don't think Jesus means Gentile rule over the whole world else that would be too obvious, of course the Gentiles have been ruling the whole world juxtaposed against Israel. So what does that phrase really mean?I agree FK that the A/C will be a Gentile, the last Gentile Ruler of the Times of the Gentiles.
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