Custom, tradition, Tradition, and scripture.

[Xeno.of.athens]

The churches that arose out of the protestant revolt/reformation of the early sixteenth century adopted some "solas" as their theological touchstones one of which was "sola scriptura". Exactly what that means may vary from individual to individual and from group to group. But the central idea is that it is to the bible that one ought to go to formulate doctrine. All other sources are regarded as subordinate.

The ancient churches, the ones much older than the sixteenth century, have other sources for doctrine

custom - relates chiefly to the way things are done in a particular locale​

tradition - relates to practises that can be traced back to previous centuries even as far back as apostolic times​

Tradition - relates to the teaching handed down from the apostles to the bishops through the generations from Christ until today​

Scripture - relates to the canonical scriptures, here there is some variation; Catholics recognise 73 books as canonical, Orthodox a few more, while Protestants have only 66​

I am a Catholic, so I am happy to relate to all of the sources mentioned as applicable in the ancient churches.

You may not be Catholic, so what are you happy with?

 

[sandman]

The churches that arose out of the protestant revolt/reformation of the early sixteenth century adopted some "solas" and their theological touchstones one of which was "sola scriptura". Exactly what that means may vary from individual to individual and from group to group. But the central idea is that it is to the bible that one ought to go to formulate doctrine. All other sources are regarded as subordinate.

The ancient churches, the ones much older than the sixteenth century, have other sources for doctrine

custom - relates chiefly to the way things are done in a particular locale​

tradition - relates to practises that can be traced back to previous centuries even as far back as apostolic times​

Tradition - relates to the teaching handed down the apostles to the bishops through the generations from Christ until today​

Scripture - relates to the canonical scriptures, here there is some variation; Catholics recognise 73 books as canonical, Orthodox a few more, while Protestants have only 66​

I am a Catholic, so I am happy to relate to all of the sources mentioned as applicable in the ancient churches.

You may not be Catholic, so what are you happy with?

I have mentioned before on one of your threads as to where I stand.

Before I knew anything about sola scripture …that was my criteria when I first got into the Word. I had been through religion and I saw too much that made me question “if this was from God how come it changed and if it‘s not from God how come we do it”. That, along with several other thing that never set well.

As trivial as that might seem …. when I got out of my service to the god of this world …. I only wanted to know the Truth …I didn’t want any religion ….Just wanted to know the Truth… and if the Bible was full of contradiction as some said ….then I was done….. But I was not going to settle for some religion with manmade rules and rituals ….when I could come up with my own…. which would be a lot more entertaining….and I had considered The First church of Mary Wanna…. with part of the mission statement “You will grow like a WEED”…. But it wasn’t legal then.

I sought out several churches in my quest for Truth and none were appealing to me… It was a March of Dimes benefit that my band along with Styx was doing… when a very renowned guitarist ….(who I had never met) saw me in the bathroom and said “I hear you are into God” …Nobody else knew about that…. except God. And it was from that convo that I got involved with a biblical research and teaching ministry which I stayed with for about 12 years.
BTW - there are no contradictions in the Bible, but there certainly are when doctrine includes tradition and extrabiblical writings.

 

[Philip_B]

The churches that arose out of the protestant revolt/reformation of the early sixteenth century adopted some "solas" and their theological touchstones one of which was "sola scriptura". Exactly what that means may vary from individual to individual and from group to group. But the central idea is that it is to the bible that one ought to go to formulate doctrine. All other sources are regarded as subordinate.

The ancient churches, the ones much older than the sixteenth century, have other sources for doctrine

custom - relates chiefly to the way things are done in a particular locale​

tradition - relates to practises that can be traced back to previous centuries even as far back as apostolic times​

Tradition - relates to the teaching handed down the apostles to the bishops through the generations from Christ until today​

Scripture - relates to the canonical scriptures, here there is some variation; Catholics recognise 73 books as canonical, Orthodox a few more, while Protestants have only 66​

I am a Catholic, so I am happy to relate to all of the sources mentioned as applicable in the ancient churches.

You may not be Catholic, so what are you happy with?

As an Anglican, and part of the one holy catholic and apostolic church, that would be a fair summation of my/our position. At the same time, I would affirm that we are one of the Ancient Churches with a history that does stretch back to the first-second century.

 

[BobRyan]

The churches that arose out of the protestant revolt/reformation of the early sixteenth century adopted some "solas" as their theological touchstones one of which was "sola scriptura". Exactly what that means may vary from individual to individual and from group to group. But the central idea is that it is to the bible that one ought to go to formulate doctrine. All other sources are regarded as subordinate.

Agreed.

Acts 17:11
and Mark 7:6-13 appear to make that point in triplicate.

The ancient churches, the ones much older than the sixteenth century, have other sources for doctrine

That is the first century church in Acts 17 --- that is older than the groups you are switching to.

Catholics recognise 73 books as canonical, Orthodox a few more, while Protestants have only 66​

I am a Catholic, so I am happy to relate to all of the sources mentioned as applicable in the ancient churches.

You may not be Catholic, so what are you happy with?

I am happy with the OT being Jewish - authored by Jews and the NT being Christian authored by Christians.

The Jews point to the OT as having what we would call 39 books today.
And all Christians point to the NT as having 27 books.

So -- hmm - 66 looks pretty good to me.