curious question time

[bugkiller]

I have been wondering if you as an SDA or your church have ever participated with support in a Billy Graham Cursade? If no do you have a reason?

bugkiller

 

[k4c]

I have been wondering if you as an SDA or your church have ever participated with support in a Billy Graham Cursade? If no do you have a reason?

bugkiller

I remember reading about someone who asked Billy Gramham about the Sabbath when he stated that he knew the Sabbath was on Saturday but if he preached it no one would come to his meetings.

 

[OntheDL]

I can't speak for the church since it does not have an official position on this. But I do not support Billy Graham and his crusade.

The bible tells us if you are loved by the world you are an enemy of God.

Billy Graham supposedly a protestant, but his popularity with the pope and Catholic church and other religions speak volumes on this subject.

Billy Graham is the spiritual adviser of 12 past presidents. Almost every one of them are on the record members of either Skull and Bones or Freemasons or Bohemian Grove or other secrete (satanic) orders.

Then there are whole questions with regard to Billy Graham and the Toronto blessing and the using of means to induce Alpha state (a state of subconsciousness and hypnosis). This is demon possession.

Then there is the question and allegation of his membership with the Freemasons that he has never denied.

 

[bugkiller]

I can't speak for the church since it does not have an official position on this. But I do not support Billy Graham and his crusade.

The bible tells us if you are loved by the world you are an enemy of God.

Billy Graham supposedly a protestant, but his popularity with the pope and Catholic church and other religions speak volumes on this subject.

Billy Graham is the spiritual adviser of 12 past presidents. Almost every one of them are on the record members of either Skull and Bones or Freemasons or Bohemian Grove or other secrete (satanic) orders.

Then there are whole questions with regard to Billy Graham and the Toronto blessing and the using of means to induce Alpha state (a state of subconsciousness and hypnosis). This is demon possession.

Then there is the question and allegation of his membership with the Freemasons that he has never denied.

I think you are correct on the statement about the presidents. I do not understand how that links Billy Graham to those same organizations.

Do you have an affirmative statement located that Billy Graham affirms membership in any of those organizations? Do you have any proof of any such activity? If that is true I would not associate with Billy Graham either. I don't but that is not the reason. I have never heard that complaint of Billy Graham.

Yes there are many abused within the Church and I certianly agree with about the Toronto blessing. And I do not associate with such churches of people promoting such.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

I remember reading about someone who asked Billy Gramham about the Sabbath when he stated that he knew the Sabbath was on Saturday but if he preached it no one would come to his meetings.

Yes and all the ones I have any reference to are SDA I am pretty sure. But I think I will doubble check to make sure. Thanks

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Say folks here is something not related to the law or the sabbath. Where did you all go?

bugkiller

 

[KM Richards]

I remember reading about someone who asked Billy Gramham about the Sabbath when he stated that he knew the Sabbath was on Saturday but if he preached it no one would come to his meetings.

Nowhere in the New Covenant does Jesus or any of the disciples command Christians to worship only on Saturday.

Most "scholars" I've seen believe the reason Christians worship on Sunday is because Jesus was raised from the dead on Sunday (went in on Friday...came out on Sunday)

So, it makes sense to celebrate Sunday due to the resurrection.

Not sure what all the hubbub is all about...if you wanna go to church on Saturday, kO0L...Sunday? No problem!

Neither means you are saved...neither means you aren't...so, go back to the prayer closet and do what you believe the Holy Ghost is leading you to do.

And...don't do what I heard a United Pentecostal Church preacher says once..."if they don't believe like we do, they're going to hell"

I only visited that church a handful of times when I had just gotten saved back in '84 and you can understand why I'll not step foot in that mess again. Life is just too short for that kind of foolishness

 

[bugkiller]

Nowhere in the New Covenant does Jesus or any of the disciples command Christians to worship only on Saturday.

Most "scholars" I've seen believe the reason Christians worship on Sunday is because Jesus was raised from the dead on Sunday (went in on Friday...came out on Sunday)

So, it makes sense to celebrate Sunday due to the resurrection.

Not sure what all the hubbub is all about...if you wanna go to church on Saturday, kO0L...Sunday? No problem!

Neither means you are saved...neither means you aren't...so, go back to the prayer closet and do what you believe the Holy Ghost is leading you to do.

And...don't do what I heard a United Pentecostal Church preacher says once..."if they don't believe like we do, they're going to hell"

I only visited that church a handful of times when I had just gotten saved back in '84 and you can understand why I'll not step foot in that mess again. Life is just too short for that kind of foolishness

Almost all churches believe what you say about the UPC, or its members so think and speak. I think that is a claim of the SDA church in practice not official statement - same as the organization you mentioned.

Yep I sure do understand.

bugkiller

 

[mont974x4]

I remember reading about someone who asked Billy Gramham about the Sabbath when he stated that he knew the Sabbath was on Saturday but if he preached it no one would come to his meetings.

proof?

 

[RND]

Nowhere in the New Covenant does Jesus or any of the disciples command Christians to worship only on Saturday.

Conversely, nowhere does He say not to!

Most "scholars" I've seen believe the reason Christians worship on Sunday is because Jesus was raised from the dead on Sunday (went in on Friday...came out on Sunday)

Yep, that's what the Catholic teaching states.

So, it makes sense to celebrate Sunday due to the resurrection.

How does scripture tell us to remember Christ's life, death, burial and resurrection?

Not sure what all the hubbub is all about...if you wanna go to church on Saturday, kO0L...Sunday? No problem!

Thanks for your permission!

Neither means you are saved...neither means you aren't...so, go back to the prayer closet and do what you believe the Holy Ghost is leading you to do.

I agree.

And...don't do what I heard a United Pentecostal Church preacher says once..."if they don't believe like we do, they're going to hell"

Everyone is at different stages of the learning process. I'm convince that for many the very first sabbath they enjoy will be the one in Heaven!

I only visited that church a handful of times when I had just gotten saved back in '84 and you can understand why I'll not step foot in that mess again. Life is just too short for that kind of foolishness

Ditto.

 

[RND]

I have been wondering if you as an SDA or your church have ever participated with support in a Billy Graham Cursade? If no do you have a reason?

bugkiller

I was unaware that in order to be a Protestant Christian on must support Billy Graham.

 

[bugkiller]

I was unaware that in order to be a Protestant Christian on must support Billy Graham.

Who said or asked that?

bugkiller