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Crossing Over with John Edwards

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He was on "Last Word: with Carson Daily" last night and for some reason I stopped and watched.

Carson asked him about religion and if he ever prays. John said he was born and rasied Catholic, and that is the trus church. He says he prays the rosary twice a day and that he plans on rasing his son catholic too.

What do you think of this guy? Do you think it's possible for our dead loved ones to contact us?

I've always liked him, and he seemed very sincere when talking about his love for our Blessed Mother and the Catholic Church.
 

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I think I'd like to know how he reconciles what he does with what he "believes". There was an article in the Catholic Digest, May or June, that discussed this "phenomenon." Interestingly enough, Mr. Edwards was mentioned. I didn't get to finish the article and so I don't know how it concluded. But the "divination" and CC 2116 was brought out, so I think, what he does is condemned by the Church.
 
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i read an article about his "craft" once. they called his "craft" a name (something like, "dry reading"), which escapes me at the moment, but apparently harry houdini would perform something like it to show believers that the "medium" was actually conning them.

anyway, from what i remember, apparently audience members fill out a form before the show, and there are mics hidden in the seats. there are also "plants" in the audience, who are there specifically to strike up conversation about loved ones who have passed away.

then behind the scenes, john will go through the applications, listen in to some of the conversations, and go from there. he'll go outside, point to a particular section in the audience and say, "okay, i'm getting something for someone whose name is like J, M. Jamie? James?" and of course, Jamie would look all shocked and say, "me? me?" then john will throw out a few predictions and his questions are such that they start out more general, then as the audience member helps him by providing more info, it becomes more specific until it looks good.

also, what they don't show you are the times when john completely misreads the audience member and is completely stumped. apparently this happens often.

anyway, i don't remember if i found the article on the web or if i read it in print, but i'll keep an eye out. in any case, i've always believed that our dead loved ones can contact us, but as for having a medium telling you what they are saying, i'm not so sure about...
 
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JeffreyLloyd said:
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He was on "Last Word: with Carson Daily" last night and for some reason I stopped and watched.
May I suggest Digital Cable or Satellite TV so you have more choices
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Carson asked him about religion and if he ever prays. John said he was born and rasied Catholic, and that is the trus church. He says he prays the rosary twice a day and that he plans on rasing his son catholic too.
Well, then why does he practice his hocus pocus stuff on TV?

What do you think of this guy?
He's A) a quack B) out to make money C) both A & B

I seriously think he has all the potential to lead people astray. Seriously.

Do you think it's possible for our dead loved ones to contact us?
The only way I could believe this if it was allowed by God. And I say this because Scripture says we are to test any message. So if the message isn't something from God (like Mary's messages) then these are demons fooling us (or trying to). Edwards is most likely running a scam. And if he believes he can contact the dead and be a Catholic, his priest needs to thump once or twice to get his attention.

I've always liked him, and he seemed very sincere when talking about his love for our Blessed Mother and the Catholic Church.
Pray for him and for those who tune in and are being deceived.
 
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Edwards is a huckster that is exploiting people's grief. He asks questions of the people and gets his answers from their body language, and that is all that it is. I find this to be pretty sick and yes we should pray for Edwards and those who think he is genuine.
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Lots of people have psychic ability to varrying degrees. Is this person's gift real or a hoax? Unless you are God, you really can't say what gifts God's endowed anyone with or whether a person is making the whole thing up.

We human's are flying blind here on earth...why is it so important to take a stance that we "know" anything absolutely? Even the most knowledgable will admit that what they know can fill a thimble while what they don't know could fill the universe. :scratch:
 
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While I agree that it is condemed by the bible, I have to wonder how he does it. I saw a dateline or 20/20 special, I can't remember which, where they tried to discredit John Edwards. They couldn't do it. They even monitored the brain waves of him and the person he was reading for to see if he somehow was reading their minds, but there was no correlation found. And if you've watched more than 1 or 2 shows, the things he comes up with are really kind of amazing. I would never place any trust in what he says, but it does make for an interesting show.
 
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He's on Larry King Live right now and he is blowing me away. He is taking live calls and seems like he really has the power to talk to these people's loved ones.

I'm not saying I agree with what he is doing, but listening to him he does not seem to be a fake.

Who knows. I guess we can just pray for him :pray:
 
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JeffreyLloyd said:
He's on Larry King Live right now and he is blowing me away. He is taking live calls and seems like he really has the power to talk to these people's loved ones.

I'm not saying I agree with what he is doing, but listening to him he does not seem to be a fake.

Who knows. I guess we can just pray for him :pray:
I think what he's doing (whether he knows it or not..most likely not) is demonic. These people (IMO) are being made a mockery by our Enemy. I'm sure if you read through the lives of the Holy Elders and Saints of the Church, you can read about this sort of thing.
 
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While I agree that it is condemed by the bible, I have to wonder how he does it.

john edwars is getting the information from the watchers. He is not talking with the actual spirits of the loved ones. Did you actually think God gives people a break from heaven just to talk to this guy?

what he is doing is demonic just like the tarot (getting its information from the watchers aka fallen angels) same as witchcraft getting its power from these same deities/entities.

my thread the seeds of satan are returning discusses the origins of the fallen angels.

http://www.christianforums.com/t52911
 
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jhessel said:
john edwars is getting the information from the watchers. He is not talking with the actual spirits of the loved ones. Did you actually think God gives people a break from heaven just to talk to this guy?

what he is doing is demonic just like the tarot (getting its information from the watchers aka fallen angels) same as witchcraft getting its power from these same deities/entities.

my thread the seeds of satan are returning discusses the origins of the fallen angels.

http://www.christianforums.com/t52911
So, you believe in burning bushes that talk, seas that part on command, writing on stone tablets, stigmata, rising from the dead and virgin births, but communicating with relatives that have passed on is impossible? So, if it happened a few thousand years ago, it's the truth and if it happens today-its, what, umm, let me see, oh! I know! fake! What do y'all say? Oh yes, "Oh ye of little faith!" :scratch:

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Did you actually think God gives people a break from heaven just to talk to this guy?

Do you have a list of the people in heaven? How do you know they're in heaven? And how do you know he's actually talking to the spirits of the dead? Maybe he's reading the minds of the people he's talking to. After all, what is it like, 11% of our brain that we use? I think there is sooooo much brain power we are capable of using, but do not know how to tap into. Look at autistic people for example; some of them are able to memorize and retain unbelievable things (i.e. recite an entire phone book they haven't seen in 20 years), all because they use their brains differently than we do.

Just something to think about.
 
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