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Show me 1 command to celebrate birthdays or to take showers? If you cant show it, then it's a tradition of man. (mirroring your line of respect and reasoning)
Yeah a double-edged pun........
According to Paul full statement, sabbath days, and holy days are non-issues.
ESV - Col 2:16 -Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.
Some commentary interprets the KJV to suggest that "sabbath" implies other sabbaths than the weekly sabbath. If you say more than the given understanding you should put an asterik
Take another look at how all the bibles versions translates this text...
The fact that the following verse explains that sabbaths are shaddow of the real rest to come.
What does this have to do with Dec. 25th and the traditions associated with it??
Jesus celebrated the Jewish Tradition of observing the cleansing of the Temple...
...Given that Jesus said He was greater than the Temple do you find Occult themes in celebrating Jesus' birth?
- Christmas Tree The sacred tree of the winter-god; Druids believed the spirit of their gods resided in the tree. Most ancient pagans knew the tree represented Nimrod reincarnated into Tammuz! Pagans also looked upon the tree as a phallic symbol.
- Star Pentalpha, the five-pointed star. The pentalpha is a powerful symbol of Satan, second only to the hexagram. The star is the sacred symbol of Nimrod, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity.
- Candles represent the sun-gods newly-born fire. Pagans the world over love and use candles in their rituals and ceremonies. Certain colors are also thought to represent specific powers. The extensive use of candles is usually a very good indication that the service is pagan, no matter what the outward trappings might be.
- Mistletoe is the sacred plant of the Druids, symbolizing pagan blessings of fertility; thus, kissing under the mistletoe is the first step in the reproductive cycle! Witches also use the white berries in potions.
- Wreaths are circular, and so they represent the female sexual organs. Wreaths are associated with fertility and the circle of life.
- December 25 is known as the nativity of the sun. This date is the birthday of Tammuz, the son, the reincarnation of the sun god. Traditionally, December 21 is known as Yule. The Roman Catholic Church moved the celebration of Yule to December 25.
- December 25 is also known to the Romans as Saturnalia, a time of deliberate debauchery. Drinking through repeated toasting known as wassail was a key to the debauchery of this celebration. Fornication was symbolized by the mistletoe, and the entire event was finished with a Great Feast, the Christmas Dinner.
- Even the name, Christmas is pagan! Christi meant Christ, while Mas meant Mass. Since all pagan Masses are commemorating death, the name, Christmas literally means the death of Christ. A deeper meaning lies in the mention of Christ without specifying Jesus. Thus, Antichrist is in view here; the pagans celebrate Christmas as a celebration of their coming Antichrist, who will deal a death blow to the Jesus Christ of Christianity.
- Early American Christian Pilgrims refused to celebrate this day.
Was that also the day of atonement?
No, 25 Kislev ( December ) for Hannukah....
...Why would you find it odd that Christians would celebrate Jesus' birthday given that He is greater than the Temple.
...And Jesus celebrated the cleansing of the Temple?
The 25th day of Kislev according to the Hebrew calendar, which may occur at any time from late November to late December.
Why don't we celebrate His baptism,
ECR said:the start of His ministry? Maybe we could pick a day like, say, Oct. 31st... we could dress up in costumes and go around taking candy from people as a symbol of us taking the gift of salvation from the giver of all gifts... wouldn't that be great! I'm sure Jesus would be pleased....
HMMM---I always suspected that Christ was born on Oct. 31----it would be just like that old devil to take Christ's birthday and make it into a celebration to him, and take one of his pagan holidays and mix it up with some jolly fat man passing out presents!! What a con job!!
Yeah a double-edged pun........
According to Paul full statement, sabbath days, and holy days are non-issues.
ESV - Col 2:16 -Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.
Some commentary interprets the KJV to suggest that "sabbath" implies other sabbaths than the weekly sabbath. If you say more than the given understanding you should put an asterik
Take another look at how all the bibles versions translates this text...
The fact that the following verse explains that sabbaths are shaddow of the real rest to come.
Stryder if you start a thread on creation days, you can show me that seven days are referenced to earth days.Ironic you'd say something about taking more than the given understanding, give you believe 7 days = 6 Billion years. Just saying.
Stryder if you start a thread on creation days, you can show me that seven days are referenced to earth days.
My take on christmas, I hate it, I dont celebrate it, and I feel lonely on christmas, when I think about all those people meeting up, having dinner together, spending time with each other, and nothing is going on for me. I guess thats why I hate itotherwise it would be all the same for me... hope I find a girlfriend soon...
I get it, your doctrine depends on seven literal day.No need Crib. The thread was already made and you simply won't admit to what you're implying. You go on about us using "commentary" and not sticking with the plain word of God, and yet, when the scripture says plainly that the Lord created the heavens and the earth in 6 days, and rested on the 7th, you say 6 billion. God said He did it in 6 and rested 7. That should settle it.
Go ahead make my day.So yeah, you can expect me to bring that up every time you say something about commentary.
You make my point perfectly... the holiday has nothing to do with a celebration of Christ's birth, it is just a cluster of traditions wrapped in a quasi religious garb.
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