Jesus laid hands on the little children, and an extraordinary person in the Spirit can also, and give them some grace. But they are not ready for baptism until they understand. To identify with Christ Jesus' death and resurrection, they must understand and accept it themselves. They must understand God, sin, righteousness and life and death.
From a look at "Baptized" in the search, and 51 results, Matthew 3:6 to Galatians 3:27, baptism requires repentance of each person who is baptized. And it results in the Holy Spirit gifting and praying in tongues...
It doesn’t say that…
From KJV
Matt 3:4 And the same John had his raiment of camel’s hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey.
Matt 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,
Matt 3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
Matt 3:7 ¶But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Matt 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
For John's baptism there must be repentance from sins, and the Pharisees were not accepted on this basis.
Jesus baptisms were for or to make disciples.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 2:37 ¶Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Again they must repent, including children, no mention of infants, they must wait, like those not yet conceived. Born and baptized maybe 7 years later? After they hear and obey the call.
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Believe and be healed, moreso, believe and be baptized. Men and women, but no infants, maybe no children, until of understanding.
Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 11:14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, "John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost."
Acts 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
The Holy Ghost can reach children. Surrounding such a thing are phenomena. But we do not know if any children were there, nor infants.
Acts 16:15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.
Acts 18:8 And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.
I think there were no infants there or they'd need wait to understand and turn to Jesus confessing sins.
Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
They needed to know and choose what they were to do. Until this event, they only knew of John's baptism.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
They had to call on the name of the Lord, which takes choice and understanding.
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
They were expected to know of Jesus death and be against sin. It takes understanding.
~That settles it for me~
- There is no explicit mention of a baby being baptized in the NT.
~That settles it for me~
- There is no explicit mention of a baby being baptized in the NT.
From KJV
Matt 3:4 And the same John had his raiment of camel’s hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey.
Matt 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,
Matt 3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
Matt 3:7 ¶But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Matt 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
For John's baptism there must be repentance from sins, and the Pharisees were not accepted on this basis.
CHAPTER 4.
John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
John 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
John 4:3 He left Judæa, and departed again into Galilee.
John 4:4 And he must needs go through Samaria.
Jesus baptisms were for or to make disciples.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 2:37 ¶Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Again they must repent, including children, no mention of infants, they must wait, like those not yet conceived. Born and baptized maybe 7 years later? After they hear and obey the call.
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Believe and be healed, moreso, believe and be baptized. Men and women, but no infants, maybe no children, until of understanding.
Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 11:14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, "John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost."
Acts 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
The Holy Ghost can reach children. Surrounding such a thing are phenomena. But we do not know if any children were there, nor infants.
Acts 16:15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.
Acts 18:8 And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.
I think there were no infants there or they'd need wait to understand and turn to Jesus confessing sins.
Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
They needed to know and choose what they were to do. Until this event, they only knew of John's baptism.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
They had to call on the name of the Lord, which takes choice and understanding.
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
They were expected to know of Jesus death and be against sin. It takes understanding.
Baptism and Holy Communion are God's action to mankind not man's action to God. A world of difference.
There is no explicit command… that men take communion either.
Obviously not, since St. John baptist our Lord, who had no sins to confess. Also it does not say Pharisees and Sadducees, who did by the way represent a majority of the Jewish people, were positively refusee baptism, merely that he required from them repentance. And furthermore, it does say “Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region around Jordan,” which obviously includes infants and children.
And Baptism was not a new thing: John the Baptist was promoting repentence and the use of the traditional Hebrew ritual ablution, which we call Baptism, but what we call a Baptismal fount, the Jews which call a Mikvah, and children are immersed in them, for example, this is how girls and women are converted to Judaism, but there are other uses.
Sorry, but John 4 does not say that. It says “baptized and made disciples.” Not “made disciples out of everyone he baptized.”
The Roman Catholics have always believed in the gift of tongues, and there is the Charis movement.Forgive me, but I see a debatable interpretation, but no unambiguous statement in the scripture itself, that infants cannot be baptized.*
For no such statement exists. It is not like the Eucharist, where our Savior actually says “This is my body” and “This is my blood” and declares in John 6 that Salvation requires us to literally eat his Body and drink his Blood, which we learn from elsewhere are sacrificed for the remission of sins.
Just as I refuse to deny that the Bread and Wine do, in some way, actually become the Body and Blood of our Lord, because Christ explicitly says so, I refuse to agree that infants cannot be Baptized because nowhere does Scripture explictly deny this. If it were that simple, the majority of Protestants, and the early Church, and the Orthodox and Roman Catholics would not baptize infants. As it stands, scripture does not explicitly demand nor forbid the baptism of infants, but it does appear to implicitly require it; enough reasonable doubt exists so that I am comfortable working with Baptists, the Stone/Campbell churches, Anabaptists, Mennonites, and so on, but not enough scriptural or Patristic evidence exists for me to agree with their doctrine; indeed the fact that the continual practice of the Church since people started discussing the baptism of infants in the second century has been to baptize them, I feel obliged to adhere to that position and I am thankful my parents had me baptized as an infant.
*Far less do I see evidence that all baptized spoke in tongues. Indeed this charism as proposed by Pentecostals cannot be proven to have existed before the Azusa Street Revival, because what we see in Acts is the ability to speak languages previously unknown. The gift of tongues is in my firm opinion, based on my research and personal experience, either xenoglossia or the ability to communicate without sharing a common language, and I have not personally encountered this from a Pentecostal, but given I do know passable amounts of Koine Greek, Liturgical Byzantine Greek, Ecclesiastical Latin, Church Slavonic, and Classical Syriac, and some Christian liturgical Arabic (I have tried to understand Coptic but Afro-Asiatic languages are just too different from the four families whose languages I can understand, namely the Indo-Iranian and Semitic families, but I do know a small amount of Turkish and Japanese).
It is not something that man initiates of his own making …. that’s just religion…. and religion is the actions (symbolism, rituals, & deeds) of what man thinks of God. (i.e. Things not found in the Word)
Excuse me? What version of the Bible do you read?....the RV (Reversed Version)? The Lord's supper was instituted and given in the presence of men (Luke 22, Mt 26 and Mk 14). You might want to brush up on your basic Biblical knowledge.
Such as the "Age of Accountability." That teaching is not found in the Word.
And the credobaptist definition of baptism is not found in the Word either..."An outward response to an inward decision."
These are the teaching of the doctrines of man not God. (Mark 7)
Excuse me? What version of the Bible do you read?....the RV (Reversed Version)? The Lord's supper was instituted and given in the presence of men (Luke 22, Mt 26 and Mk 14). You might want to brush up on your basic Biblical knowledge.
There is no explicit command… that men take communion either. https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1co/11/26/s_1073026
I have the “Holy Bible” version
You asserted that there was no specific command or example that men took communion.
By asserting the opposite, you are promoting the "doctrines of men" not God. (Mark 7) This is fairly typical of American Evangelicalism. Saying the opposite of what Scripture states. This is most certainly true.
If it is a commandment of God ….show me!
You stated I am promoting the doctrines of men ….and yet…. what you are stating is not in the Bible.
I'm not sure where I stand on this. That is why I would like to hear what others think. I am somewhat leaning more towards Credobaptism because:
- There is no explicit mention of a baby being baptized in the NT
- No early church writings say anything about pedobaptism. To the contrary, they only talk about credobaptism. It seems the practice starts to become more common at the end of the second century/beginning of thrid century (Hippolytus, Origen, Cyprian)