Creationists should abstain

[HypnoToad]

I see very little arrogance from KerrMetric, only intense frustration. And considering the immense arrogance I see daily from creationists (indeed, this entire thread is a good example), that frustration is quite justified. I would suggest, for your own benefit, that you reconsider your choices on this matter.

Sorry, I don't see much "benefit" from being continually insulted and condescended to.

Of course, if you're happy about the reputation creationists have, feel free to stay the course. But do stop complaining about a reputation that you personally have helped to build.

I never said anything complaining about any supposed "creationist reputation". I said I was sick of Kerr's attitude.

And I can see from your post in the "Debate Preparation" thread that you seem just as intent on the disrespectful attitude as Kerr is.

 

[Floodnut]

Romans One describes them well

 

[Assyrian]

Hi floodnut, when you refer to Galle and KerrMetric with

Romans One describes them well

Are you referring to Romans 1:7 To all those in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Or

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.
19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools,
23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,
25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;
27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.
29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,
30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
32 Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

When you say TEs are described by Romans 1 do you mean to call them:
(a) Loved by God and called to be saints,
or
(b) fools who worship idols of mammals, birds and reptiles, and engage in the same sex relationships Paul describes here?

 

[Floodnut]

Yes, Romans 1 makes that dramatic distinction.