Creationists: is there anything you can be wrong about?

[CabVet]

I thought I answered that already?

Did you? Sorry I missed it. But I do remember you admitted you could be wrong about a lot of this stuff. I am curious to know though, where do you draw the line? At "in the beginning God"? At day 6 of creation? Or somewhere in between?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

I'm not sure how they would go about convincing me of that, since it wasn't in a place where there were windows which could allow for car headlights or someone with a flashlight playing games; and shadows are much harder to generate then light in a hallway with overhead lighting.

However, if there was overwhelming evidence that particular experience was a natural phenomenon, then it would certainly change what I thought about it. That wouldn't explain the other things that happened that night which I didn't mention, and it wouldn't explain the many other experiences that I have had over my many years.

No, but it would at least be a demonstration of how you could be completely wrong about something you are utterly convinced about.

As far as being wrong, I'm skeptical by natural and tend to over analyze things, so I'm not easily convinced about things which have very little evidence. In my case the evidence of God was overwhelming and encompassed many things; not just one particular event. I could cite, for example, my grandfather, who was a man given to drinking who held no belief in God whatsoever. Over time he came to be one of the most devout men I ever knew. He exemplified what it meant to be "born again." He was no simple minded sap, either. He was probably one of the toughest men I've ever known.

Yes, but this is all tends towards evidence that confirms previously held convictions. It is when one of the foundational convictions is shown to be wrong that we get the horrible shocking feeling of a core concept coming crashing down and the implications that has for many things we have built on that belief.

We all make mistakes. I make them every day. With God, though, there is no mistake. The Holy Spirit will reveal to you anything that you ask of Him.

Of course there can be a mistake. It is fallible old you remember? You may be convinced you are right, but if you have ever experienced being wrong about something you were equally convinced you were right about then you know how unreliable that feeling of conviction is. You are just an imperfect human being after all. I mean, from your point of view over a billion human beings are wrong about the koran. Over a billion! (1.5 billion actually, I just looked it up.) All of them wrong. And yet you are convinced you are right about the bible and can't be wrong. Indeed, just as they are. We could all of us be wrong about anything. You say you are a sceptic by nature, but a real sceptic starts by assuming that he doesn't know if anything true. The sceptic does not start by assuming there is something about which he can't be wrong. That is the antithesis of scepticism.

 

[AV1611VET]

Did you? Sorry I missed it.

QV post 10

 

[Delphiki]

When you take a look at who is answering "no" in this thread, it speaks volumes in regards to who really desire the truth versus who is too stubborn to learn anything.

 

[ladyches]

That's because your mind IS the Holy Spirit and it does what you tell it to.

Close, but no cigar.

For, "Who can know the LORD's thoughts? Who knows enough to teach him?" But we understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ. I Cor 2:16

 

[HitchSlap]

Close, but no cigar.

For, "Who can know the LORD's thoughts? Who knows enough to teach him?" But we understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ. I Cor 2:16

All you need is the super decoder ring, right?

 

[FredHoyle]

That's because your mind IS the Holy Spirit and it does what you tell it to.

Close, but no cigar.

For, "Who can know the LORD's thoughts? Who knows enough to teach him?" But we understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ. I Cor 2:16

The book gives you the rules then you do the rest yourself, you design and manufacture the god in your imagination.

 

[Delphiki]

Close, but no cigar.

For, "Who can know the LORD's thoughts? Who knows enough to teach him?" But we understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ. I Cor 2:16

When you consider the trinity, that's the same thing.

 

[ladyches]

All you need is the super decoder ring, right?

Noe THAT would be the Holy Spirit.

 

[CabVet]

Yes

How much age God embedded into His creation.

Currently, I use the number scientists use: 13,700,000,000.

At the clipboard.

Can you be wrong about flood waters going to Neptune?

 

[HitchSlap]

Noe THAT would be the Holy Spirit.

Can you name one thing you came to know or understand as a believer, that I, as an unbeliever could not come to know or understand by natural means?

 

[AV1611VET]

Can you be wrong about flood waters going to Neptune?

You decide: 96

 

[CabVet]

You decide: 96

Seriously, is it easier to go search for an old thread and post the link than it is to answer a simple question?

 

[bhsmte]

Seriously, is it easier to go search for an old thread and post the link than it is to answer a simple question?

This is like watching Bill Clinton being deposed by Kenneth Star.

 

[ladyches]

Can you name one thing you came to know or understand as a believer, that I, as an unbeliever could not come to know or understand by natural means?

God. One cannot know God on natural terms. Even the desire to know him comes from him. He calls us. We don't find him. And he gives us the faith to believe in him, for without it, there is no pleasing him.

 

[bhsmte]

God. One cannot know God on natural terms. Even the desire to know him comes from him. He calls us. We don't find him. And he gives us the faith to believe in him, for without it, there is no pleasing him.

How does God determine who to call?

I thought God loved all his creation, why wouldn't he call everyone?

 

[HitchSlap]

God. One cannot know God on natural terms. Even the desire to know him comes from him. He calls us. We don't find him. And he gives us the faith to believe in him, for without it, there is no pleasing him.

So, you can only know Christian god if you believe it exists? Are you able to demonstrate this?

I'm asking you to prove you know god and I don't/can't per your claim.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm asking you to prove you know god and I don't/can't per your claim.

Alcoholics want proof.

 

[HitchSlap]

Alcoholics want proof.

Prove it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Prove it.

Do I look like a brewry?