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Evidence appeals to the brain, which is part of the body, and can only be satisfied by empirical data.
Atheism & Agnosticism are spiritual problems, and can only be satisfied by Jesus Christ.
You do know agnosticism is not a religion, right?
This is a very interesting question that ties into the blessing of Abraham Christians are suppose to inherit, the most descendants. The most descendants award goes to the a chines or Asian in general if you add India. As a world population they have more than 2/3s, so they must have started after the flood or were they there all along, just descendants of CHainA in the land of wandering! GOD must love them so much that Buddhism or Hinduism is God's true religion. Correct me if I'm wrong. Please.
If Agnosticism resists the Bible, then Agnosticism is a religion.
I disagree -- on both counts.it doesn't though. One can be agnostic and Christian.
I disagree -- on both counts.
You know as well as I do your beliefs have nothing to do with evidence.
You didn't need evidence to make you believe so no amount of evidence will make you stop believing.
You are where you are {religion wise} because it's where you want to be.
Not so. If I saw positive evidence for evolution I would, in all honesty, have to accept it (but even then it would be God-directed). Complete organisms that show no evidence of changing indicate creation, not evolution. Somewhere in the fossil record there must be evidence of organisms in the midst of change, else special creation is the only logical interpretation.
Feel free to have that opinion, but don't you have plenty of doubt about things, even if you wouldn't consider beliefs to be touched by it?
They say there was a population spike after a black out in New York some years ago. The slaves in Egypt had little else to do.I did another population growth model using the Israelites in Egypt, the 400 years of captivity, and a growth rate of three children per couple, with a reproductive period of thirty years (three children born per couple in the ten year reproductive period between ages 20 and 30).
Not counting Joseph there were 11 couples to start with.
Years
1- 22 people (if the Israelites didn't bring any children from Canaan)
30- 33
60- 99
90- 297
120-891
150-2,673
180-8,019
210-24,057
240-72,171
270-216,513
300-649,539 I'm guessing it was about this time the Egyptians began to get nervous.
330-1,948,617
360-5,845,851
390-17,537,553
Based on how many came out of Egypt even this number is way too high, but demonstrates that even a modest reproductive rate adds up over time to a lot of people.
600,000 adult men+600,000 wives+1,800,000 children=3,000,000 total. Most believers believe that Israel numbered between 3 and 5 million at the time of the exodus, which is a very reasonable number given the entire circumstance of their sojourn in Egypt and the fertile land of Goshen (where they actually lived and prospered).
Even the Egyptians noted the 'vigor' with which the Hebrew women gave birth.
I did another population growth calculation using the Israelites in Egypt, the 400 years of captivity, and a growth rate of three children per couple, with a reproductive period of thirty years (three children born per couple in the ten year reproductive period between ages 20 and 30).
Not counting Joseph there were 11 couples to start with.
Years
1- 22 people (if the Israelites didn't bring any children from Canaan)
30- 33
60- 99
90- 297
120-891
150-2,673
180-8,019
210-24,057
240-72,171
270-216,513
300-649,539 I'm guessing it was about this time the Egyptians began to get nervous.
330-1,948,617
360-5,845,851
390-17,537,553
Based on how many came out of Egypt even this number is way too high, but demonstrates that even a modest reproductive rate adds up over time to a lot of people.
The bible states that 600,000 adult men along with their families came out, therefore, 600,000 adult men+600,000 wives+1,800,000 children=3,000,000 total. Many believe that Israel numbered between 3 and 5 million at the time of the exodus, which is a very reasonable number given the entire circumstance of their sojourn in Egypt and the fertile land of Goshen (where they actually lived and prospered).
Thanks for getting back on topic.
People in those times did not have hospitals or modern medicine. Death in the first year of life was extremely common. If people were only having three children per couple, they would have died out. The average life span was about 20 years.
Ouch, people died young, but 20 years is cutting it on the low side.
Thanks for getting back on topic.
People in those times did not have hospitals or modern medicine. Death in the first year of life was extremely common. If people were only having three children per couple, they would have died out. The average life span was about 20 years.
I checked it out when this thread started, there was consensus on a number of sites (for 3000-4000 bc, which I think is the applicable time frame). Here is one site: DHO: Health Science
If you find more reliable sites with different numbers, could you please link? Thanks in advance.
The Egyptians noted the health of the Hebrew women regarding childbirth. The number of men was 600,000. Are we to assume they had no wives, children, or living parents? Even if those men only had wives, and they were both 20 years old that would be 1,200,000 Israelites that came out. However the story includes children,
"And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children." Exodus 12:37
People in those times did not have hospitals or modern medicine.
I have found that dropping one or two of the 0's tends to make a reasonable number for the ones in the hundreds and up.
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