Creationist Statements

[daniel192]

So Darwin drew a line between man and animals?

He was referring to other animals.

 

[AV1611VET]

You don't get any answers because you constantly quote mine, lie and twist everything to make it sound like you're right.

All I 'quote mined' was the title of Darwin's book; and I asked a very specific question about genetic engineering, of which your refusal to answer speaks volumes.

 

[Freysinn]

So Darwin drew a line between man and animals?

He didnt want to upset the religious community, and his religious wife. And at that point in time there was no definate proof of human evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

He didnt want to upset the religious community, and his religious wife.

Give me a break.

So what did he do, write his book anonymously --- from the attic?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Sure, you could manipulate peoples skin colour, but that doesn't give one race any more advantage over another.

Charles Darwin and his disciple Adolf Hitler said otherwise.

 

[Freysinn]

All I 'quote mined' was the title of Darwin's book; and I asked a very specific question about genetic engineering, of which your refusal to answer speaks volumes.

I really dont think we are qualified to answer such questions im afraid you would have to talk to some scientists that knows this. Or i guess you could do a google word search on the subject.

 

[daniel192]

All I 'quote mined' was the title of Darwin's book; and I asked a very specific question about genetic engineering, of which your refusal to answer speaks volumes.

On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life
Do you know what that means?

or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life
as in races fighting not to be extinct as evolution changes them. Nature select the best ones, the ones that are capable of surviving in changing environments and alters them so it makes life easier for them. Simple as that.

 

[Naraoia]

I define 'kinds' as 'incipients'.

Initially they were the first-generation life on earth.

How would you use that definition to determine where the "barrier nature cannot cross" is?

Which race is superior then, according to genetic engineering?

(Please answer this and be specific --- a one or two-word answer would be nice.)

AV and his demands... Listen closely, 'cause I'm only going to say it... every time you make unfair demands on your opponents:

There are questions that cannot be answered in two words!

As for specific answers, the question as you worded it is meaningless in an evolutionary context. Evolutionary theory knows no such thing as "superior" (at least, not in the sense I think you use the word). One race can be better adapted to a certain environment, but that doesn't make them "superior" to another race. In a different environment, the others will do better. Take skin colour as an obvious example. If you're dark-skinned, you might be less likely to end up sunburnt on the African savannah, but you're more likely to get rickets in gloomy Britain. Different challenges, different "superior" solutions.

But suppose you wanted to create one?

You'd face serious difficulties. There's no free lunch in evolution; create something that's superior in one respect, and I bet you it'll be inferior in others.

 

[Freysinn]

Give me a break.

So what did he do, write his book anonymously --- from the attic?

No, he just didnt mention evolution of man in his book. And he had no evidence to support the claim that men evolved either.

 

[Gishin]

Give me a break.

So what did he do, write his book anonymously --- from the attic?

Reductio ad absurdum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AV1611VET]

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[Gishin]

Charles Darwin and his disciple Adolf Hitler said otherwise.

Why are you doing that?

 

[Freysinn]

Charles Darwin and his disciple Adolf Hitler said otherwise.

Hahahaha and your source?

 

[Gishin]

They don't care about sources, they care about being as intellectually insulting as possible.

 

[AV1611VET]

I really dont think we are qualified to answer such questions im afraid you would have to talk to some scientists that knows this. Or i guess you could do a google word search on the subject.

For a simple two-word-maximum answer?

No, thanks --- I'd rather ask the "experts" here.

 

[Biologist]

You've obviously never read Mein Kampf.

If you'd ever read it you would know it's there.

I'm calling you out on your obvious lie. Chances are you've never read it either.

Here's an english text copy of the book: Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler

Find quotes linking him to Darwin in that book, since after all you made the came that it was named after Darwin's book.

Better yet, I challenge you to a formal debate:

I will present the argument that Hitler was Christian when he wrote Mein Kampf and on the day that the first Jews were murdered. However, I will also make the point that his crimes were inspired by racism not his religion.

You can make the argument that Hitler was Atheist or Non-religious at the time of writing my Kampf and on the day the first Jews were murdered. You can also present a link between Darwin's writings and Hitler's killing.

This, has got to end somewhere. I will draw up the rules once I get of from work, but you can go ahead and start gathering sources and writing your thesis.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nature select the best ones...

Good for nature.

I'm talking about genetic engineering now --- inside of a laboratory.

Nature doesn't have a monopoly on creating mutants, does she?

 

[Freysinn]

This will be interesting.

 

[AV1611VET]

You'd face serious difficulties. There's no free lunch in evolution; create something that's superior in one respect, and I bet you it'll be inferior in others.

How would you know, Naraoia, until you create one?

And yes, you'd face serious difficulties alright --- with God.

 

[Freysinn]

Good for nature.

I'm talking about genetic engineering now --- inside of a laboratory.

Nature doesn't have a monopoly on creating mutants, does she?

He was obviously not reffering to nature creating mutants. He made a valid point and you simply svept it away with "I'm talking about genetic engineering now"

How about that?