Creationist Challenge: Plate Tectonics

[dawiyd]

Assume the world is 30, 000 years old. On average tectonic plates move 4 inches per year. This means that since the beginning of time the plates have shifted around 10, 000 feet, a little less then two miles. Obviously, this poses a problem for the idea of a Pangea.

Challenge: Explain

1. Coal deposits in Antarctica showing fossils of tropical plants. Tectonics explains this since that land was at one point nearer to the equator at a latitude that allowed for such growth. Growth of these plants at the latitude of Antarctica is nearly impossible.

2. Continental ice sheets- glacial striations on rocks show that glaciers moved from south America towards the Atlantic ocean and from the Atlantic ocean towards Africa. Since it is highly unlikely that glaciers swim, how is this gap explainable if the continents were not joined at some point?

3. Identical fossil species along the South American and African shores, both on the Atlantic side. Fossils from these species are not found in north America, Asia, or the western side of Africa.

 

[TheInstant]

Challenge: Explain

1. Coal deposits in Antarctica showing fossils of tropical plants. Tectonics explains this since that land was at one point nearer to the equator at a latitude that allowed for such growth. Growth of these plants at the latitude of Antarctica is nearly impossible.

Flood.

2. Continental ice sheets- glacial striations on rocks show that glaciers moved from south America towards the Atlantic ocean and from the Atlantic ocean towards Africa. Since it is highly unlikely that glaciers swim, how is this gap explainable if the continents were not joined at some point?

Flood.

3. Identical fossil species along the South American and African shores, both on the Atlantic side. Fossils from these species are not found in north America, Asia, or the western side of Africa.

Flood.

 

[Mocca]

I sigh. You can't refute creationism. It's impossible.

I'll answer your challenge.

1) God made it possible using his grace.
2) God used his grace to carry the glaciers over oceans.
3) God planted them there.

Do I get a prize?

Edit: Dang, TheInstant did it much better than me. Much more elegant, I must say.

 

[JohnR7]

I sigh. You can't refute creationism. It's impossible.

There is a reason why I come to this forum and not the creationists forum. People here are a little bit more open and not quite so hard headed.

 

[Hydra009]

lol, you might be missing out on a vital part of that post, John. Try asking why it is irrefutable. (It might have something to do with falsifiability)

 

[Mocca]

John, it has to do with falsifiability. In any proposition where a supernatural being is involved, as we don't know how supernatural beings or forces work, we make any concrete predictions from such a proposition. Any evidence against the proposition can be explained by supernatural entities or supernatural forces, therefore it cannot be proven wrong.

 

[dawiyd]

I sigh. You can't refute creationism. It's impossible.

I'll answer your challenge.

1) God made it possible using his grace.
2) God used his grace to carry the glaciers over oceans.
3) God planted them there.

Do I get a prize?

Edit: Dang, TheInstant did it much better than me. Much more elegant, I must say.

Duh, eternal life.

 

[Mocca]

Ooh, that's definately a benefit. I'm sad that TheInstant claimed it before me. What's second place?

 

[dad]

Assume the world is 30, 000 years old.

6000

On average tectonic plates move 4 inches per year. This means that since the beginning of time the plates have shifted around 10, 000 feet, a little less then two miles. Obviously, this poses a problem for the idea of a Pangea.

They moved fast at one point.

Challenge: Explain

1. Coal deposits in Antarctica showing fossils of tropical plants. Tectonics explains this since that land was at one point nearer to the equator at a latitude that allowed for such growth. Growth of these plants at the latitude of Antarctica is nearly impossible.

The continents moved apart fast.

2. Continental ice sheets- glacial striations on rocks show that glaciers moved from south America towards the Atlantic ocean and from the Atlantic ocean towards Africa. Since it is highly unlikely that glaciers swim, how is this gap explainable if the continents were not joined at some point?

They were.

3. Identical fossil species along the South American and African shores, both on the Atlantic side. Fossils from these species are not found in north America, Asia, or the western side of Africa.

Precisely, I agree. I am a YEC. Evidence is evidence.

 

[Mocca]

dad further drives my point home: creationism cannot be refuted!

 

[dad]

dad further drives my point home: creationism cannot be refuted!

That is right, it can't. Don't you wish you had as solid a belief?

 

[Nightson]

That is right, it can't. Don't you wish you had as solid a belief?

ROFLMAO

I can't believe people still think you're not just making fun of creationists.

 

[dlamberth]

That is right, it can't. Don't you wish you had as solid a belief?

In a myth?!?...meaning a 6000 year old earth with Biblical flood.

.

 

[dad]

ROFLMAO

I can't believe people still think you're not just making fun of creationists.

Believe.

 

[Hydra009]

The continents moved apart fast.

I suppose the obvious question is if you have any supporting evidence for this at all that doesn't begin with abracadabra.

 

[dad]

In a myth?!?...meaning a 6000 year old earth with Biblical flood.

.

No. Mine is not the myth. Mine is absolute, unquestionable, indisputible fact. Your attempts to question it are the genuine, real, actual myth.

 

[dad]

I suppose the obvious question is if you have any supporting evidence for this at all that doesn't begin with abracadabra.

Wrong. They begin with hard evidence, accepted by science. Look, we know that the continents moved apart, I kid you not. Give science some credit. A lot of work has been done to determine that.

 

[Nightson]

Believe.

Ahh, but then the question I would have to ask is why you post through a proxy server.

 

[dad]

Ahh, but then the question I would have to ask is why you post through a proxy server.

How would you know?

 

[Baggins]

Assume the world is 30, 000 years old. .

Why on earth would you do this?

Multiple forms of radiometric dating date the earth to 4.6 billion years old.

Thus the rest of your post is rendered moot.



What a silly post