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Great evangelical technique, I must say.Good. We can end this conversation then so I don’t have to continue listening to you spew falsehood about the creation of the world.
How circular of you.Actually it does. The credal statement is based on the Genesis account where God created man. The Nicene Creed is based on the Bible. The Creed doesn’t say that man evolved, it says the world was created.
Second, it is not correct to imply, as you appear to do, that evolution has to be “reproducible” in order to be accorded the status of scientific fact.
"For who that has understanding will suppose that the first, and second, and third day, and the evening and the morning, existed without a sun, and moon, and stars? And that the first day was, as it were, also without a sky? And who is so foolish as to suppose that God, after the manner of a husbandman, planted a paradise in Eden, towards the east, and placed in it a tree of life, visible and palpable, so that one tasting of the fruit by the bodily teeth obtained life? And again, that one was a partaker of good and evil by masticating what was taken from the tree? And if God is said to walk in the paradise in the evening, and Adam to hide himself under a tree, I do not suppose that anyone doubts that these things figuratively indicate certain mysteries, the history having taken place in appearance, and not literally"Prove it.
The Church has always interpreted Genesis literally.
Ok, time to take responsibility for your claims:You have proved nothing here. You’ve only made dubious claims that are debunked by both scripture and reason.
However, I will readily admit that I am not in any way shape or form some evolution scientist. I've only looked at various reports that offer information to lay people about the various 'proofs' of evolution. So far, all I've seen in these various reports are commonality connections that are basically 'assumed' to be proofs of some evolutionary process. We haven't yet actually found any kind of skeletal or fossil remains showing that there is a bridge of evolution from say, a shark to a snake, or whatever animal you might choose to start with and end up with. All we can do is look at the DNA or skeletal information and pick out several common characteristics and 'assume' that they must be connected by some evolutionary process.
Ok, time to take responsibility for your claims:
1. Explain to us exactly why we must take the creation account LITERALLY. Do you believe tree will clap their hands? Or that mountains will break forth in song? Scripture says they will. So why don’t you take such claims literally?
2. Provide one thing I have posted that defies reason. You will fail, I assure you.
Not an answer. WHY isn’t the creation account “one of those times”?1. We need to rightly divide the word of truth. There are certain times metaphors are used but the creation account isn’t one of those times.
Falsehood. I NEVER made such a statement. In fact, at least twice I have been quite clear that an overwhelming majority of experts agree.I already provided an example of your dubious claims: “that all experts agree”.
You better review post #54
We need to be truthful - the evidence is indeed conclusive; there is virtual unanimity among experts that evolution happened.
That smacks of Dispensationalism.1. We need to rightly divide the word of truth. There are certain times metaphors are used but the creation account isn’t one of those times.
This is a common straw man misrepresentation of evolution. If the first of those examples was possible, it would falsify evolution - dog and cat evolution can only extend their own respective lineages. For the second, birds are the descendants of avian therapod dinosaurs, so they are already part of the dinosaur lineage.... No one has yet been able to turn a dog into a cat or a bird into a dinosaur.
You may not understand English well enough to read my post correctly.You better review post #54
This means almost complete unanimity; it does not mean complete, exception-less unanimity.Expos4ever said:We need to be truthful - the evidence is indeed conclusive; there is virtual unanimity among experts that evolution happened.
Which again is an incorrect statement.
"Rightly dividing the Word of God." (II Tim 2:15) is what the Dispensationalists think they are doing in creating creating the "dispensations." It's their catchphrase.How? I’m not a dispensationalist.
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