Creationism - Lazy Man's science?

[JohnR7]

natural selection.

So how does asexual reproduction work with natural selection? With bisexual reproduction a mutation can spread to the whole species. With asexual how would a mutation spread to the rest of the species? Esp when you consider that there are more harmful mutations then there are benificial mutations.

 

[JohnR7]

There is no "the moral laws", John.

I was going by your definition. We are not going to accomplish anything here because we can not even get our terms defined. Your like a boat without an anchor being tossed around by the waves. It is no wonder that you do not receive anything from God.

James 1:6-8
But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. [7] For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. [8] A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

 

[kopilo]

the vast majority doesn't believe in Christianity.

33% are christian, but more then half of the people accept christianity to some degree. Even with your poison pen you accept it to some degree, so that means the vast majority of the people do "believe" in at least the moral laws. Even In your face athiest Dawkins accepted and believed in the moral laws of treating others right. Or doing onto others what you would want them to do onto you.

Sounds like karma to me, anywho I believe bringing up post #404 might be an idea...

 

[kopilo]

So how does asexual reproduction work with natural selection? With bisexual reproduction a mutation can spread to the whole species. With asexual how would a mutation spread to the rest of the species? Esp when you consider that there are more harmful mutations then there are benificial mutations.

...

Could you give an example, so we can determine what you are actually trying to say?

 

[kopilo]

I was going by your definition. We are not going to accomplish anything here because we can not even get our terms defined. Your like a boat without an anchor being tossed around by the waves. It is no wonder that you do not receive anything from God.

James 1:6-8
But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. [7] For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. [8] A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

And you are like a trigger happy gunman shooting a dead corpse?

'Nothing can be accomplished so I'll try to add something...'

 

[JohnR7]

Everyone dies, John..

You can not prove that, because some people do disappear without a trace. My theory is that will happen during the rapture. There will be a nuclear war or some other kind of a disaster and people will just vanish without a trace. Most people will know what happened to them, and perhaps that will cause them to repent. But a lot of others will just think they died from natural causes, even if there is no trace of them or evidence of death.

 

[JohnR7]

Sounds like karma to me, ...

Actually, it sounds a lot like karma to me also.

 

[JohnR7]

And you are like a trigger happy gunman shooting a dead corpse?

We do not shoot dead people we try to raise them from the dead. Esp the walking dead that are dead in their sin. We try to get them to receive the life of Jesus in them.

Luke 7:22
Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

 

[JohnR7]

Remember your comments about the firefighters who responded to your medical situation? Go back and read my response. The answer to your question is there.

I looked for that two or three times, but I never did find it.

 

[kopilo]

You can not prove that, because some people do disappear without a trace. My theory is that will happen during the rapture. There will be a nuclear war or some other kind of a disaster and people will just vanish without a trace. Most people will know what happened to them, and perhaps that will cause them to repent. But a lot of others will just think they died from natural causes, even if there is no trace of them or evidence of death.

Some might get a crazy idea and think they were abducted by a secret military force.. Wait don't people go missing without a trace already, such as all the missing people reported to the police?

 

[JohnR7]

females banding together.

Did you ever hear of John and Lorena Bobbitt? The prisons are filled with women that did not have to band together, they did just fine all by themselves. They just have to take advantage of the element of surprise.

 

[kopilo]

I looked for that two or three times, but I never did find it.

Maybe try post #560.

 

[kopilo]

Did you ever hear of John and Lorena Bobbitt? The prisons are filled with women that did not have to band together, they did just fine all by themselves. They just have to take advantage of the element of surprise.

Anyone who is a prisioner by any means is not doing alright. Criminals are social outcasts by our laws.

 

[Tomk80]

This is a perfect example of one my Four Axioms:

• Evolution violates God's principles of love and harmony.

Not to mention, it violates my first one, too.

Reality can't help it if it violates your fantasy world.

Whether caused by evolution or through God's creation, in both cases the animal behavior is the same now. This isn't something specific for evolution. How animals behave is how they behave, whether you like it or not. The only question is how their behavior came to be what it is.

 

[And-U-Say]

I know what other men have claimed to experienced and I know that those who claim a belief in the Christian God have nothing more compelling than those believing in other gods. But in most cases, those believing in other gods don't believe in the Christian God and those who believe in the Christian God don't believe in other gods. This leaves only two reasonable conclusions. Either no gods exist or all gods exist. Since no one has ever presented a single lick of credible evidence for the existence of any god, the latter of the two choices seems the most likely.


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The Bible claims that Jesus said this. Jesus didn't write the Bible, John. If you insist on defaulting to the belief that the Bible is infallible, then of course you'll never live in a world which makes sense. You'll continually find yourself denying that which is clearly demonstrable and you'll live in a fearful world where all of science is but one large conspiracy aimed directly at destroying your faith. If you would instead recognize the simple truth that reality itself is the supreme measure of truth, you'd begin to see that the Bible isn't what you hold it to be.

Wow! This is really good stuff. I am always imressed by your work. You should write a book.

 

[AV1611VET]

Wow! This is really good stuff. I am always imressed by your work. You should write a book.

Anton LaVey beat him to it.

 

[kopilo]

Real mature.[/sarcasim]

Anton LaVey teaches there is a god.

 

[AV1611VET]

Real mature.[/sarcasim]

Anton LaVey teaches there is a god.

And Beastt describes him.

 

[Jase]

And Beastt describes him.

I think calling fellow board members creators of Satanism is very unChristian.

 

[Beastt]

So how does asexual reproduction work with natural selection? With bisexual reproduction a mutation can spread to the whole species. With asexual how would a mutation spread to the rest of the species? Esp when you consider that there are more harmful mutations then there are benificial mutations.

This is a good example of the problem, John. You continually claim to understand the processes discovered by science and described under the "Theory of Evolution". Then you ask a question like this, completely erasing any possibility that you have any clue about how evolution works.

The mutations of evolution occur during the copying of genetic material. It doesn't matter whether the reproductive process is sexual or asexual -- copying of genetic material still takes place. If the copy is imperfect, (not exactly like the original), the resulting mutation will likely be neutral, (it will have no real effect upon the new copy). Sometimes the mutation will be detrimental which reduces the chance that the new copy will itself, generate copies; presenting the likelihood that the mutation will eventually vanish from the species in question. Other times, there is a beneficial effect arising from the mutation which means the probability of reproducing is increased. An increased chance of reproduction means a trait will have a strong likelihood of remaining within a species. As these tiny changes accumulate over many generations, enough changes can result that the new offspring are classifiable as a different species than that of their ancestors. This is known as "speciation" and has been observed and documented, both in the lab and in the wild.