Creationism - Lazy Man's science?

[Nathan Poe]

As Dr Kurt Wise says, the Bible is the evidence for God.

And why should I listen to Kurt Wise?

 

[vipertaja]

And why should I listen to Kurt Wise?

Because of his surname, dummy.

 

[OdwinOddball]

Sorry, I am limited in what I can post on here right now because of all the complaints people have filed against me.

All you have to do is say, sorry, I was not telling the truth. I don't really have any evidence to present.

Making up flimsy excuses just makes you look worse. You just made a post. You started what 3 or 4 threads today? Obviously you can post, so get with it. Post this evidence.

And if you really do have all these complaints filed against you, isn't it time you re-examined your posting strategy? The common thread in all this is you. If enough people get on you about how you behave, then the only conclusion one can draw is that you are doing something wrong...so fix it. Post the evidence. Back up your claims. Stop arguing from ignorance and continually dodging the question. Get some guts and start actually thinking and learning abot the subject instead of just making wild claims with no substance. You are obviously a fairly intelligent guy, so use that intellignece for once instead of hiding behind the sheild of lazy thinking.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Sorry, I am limited in what I can post on here right now because of all the complaints people have filed against me.

And have you learned anything from all those complaints?

In any case, the onus is still on you: What evidence?

 

[OdwinOddball]

So how bout that evidence John? Got any yet?

 

[Beastt]

Sorry, I am limited in what I can post on here right now because of all the complaints people have filed against me.

What rule is being imposed against you which prohibits you from posting evidence in support of your claims? I'm aware of a rule which specifies that claims in G.A. be provided with support. I'm not familiar with any rule to the contrary.

 

[Beastt]

As Dr Kurt Wise says, the Bible is the evidence for God.

Do you not understand why such an assertion is purely absurd?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Do you not understand why such an assertion is purely absurd?

Look who you're asking!

 

[JohnR7]

Do you not understand why such an assertion is purely absurd?

It is the best answer for the question. Science is based on the best current answer or the best explaination or the best understanding. Religion is no different than science. So if the best answer is "absurd" for one, then the best answer is equally as "absurd" for the other.

 

[vipertaja]

What rule is being imposed against you which prohibits you from posting evidence in support of your claims? I'm aware of a rule which specifies that claims in G.A. be provided with support. I'm not familiar with any rule to the contrary.

I think it's one of the commandments.

"thou shalt not let JohnR7 posteth any evidence. May he merely linger on thine net and trolleth."

I think it was on the tablet that Moses dropped and broke on the way down from the mountain.

 

[JohnR7]

And why should I listen to Kurt Wise?

Do you have a better answer to the question that you would like to offer us? By all means give it a try and see if you can come up with a better answer to the question.

 

[Loudmouth]

As Dr Kurt Wise says, the Bible is the evidence for God.

Read my signature.

You can read the entire essay here

Here is another good quote from the essay:

"This is consistent with repeated examples of YACists receiving the highest training as YACists, as well as the growth of the YAC movement despite better arguments against creation and for evolution."

 

[Nathan Poe]

Do you have a better answer to the question that you would like to offer us? By all means give it a try and see if you can come up with a better answer to the question.

How about you answer my question first: What makes Kurt Wise's opinion on the nature of God any more valid than yours or mine?

 

[JohnR7]

How about you answer my question first: What makes Kurt Wise's opinion on the nature of God any more valid than yours or mine?

His has been published, he has a Phd, he studed under Gould at Harvard.
He is the head of the Center for Theology and Science for the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

 

[JohnR7]

All you have to do is say

Is there a rule somewhere that says I have so say something, anything? Could you show me that rule?

 

[OdwinOddball]

Is there a rule somewhere that says I have so say something, anything? Could you show me that rule?

Its pretty simpe John, if you have any desire for anyone on these boards to ever take anything you say seriously, you have to substantiate your claims.

otherwise it is just the opinion of a man who has time and time again demonstrated a complete lack of udnerstanding of the very subjects he rails against.

So, are you saying that you refuse to provide any substantiation for your claims?

 

[JohnR7]

anything you say seriously,

I am fully aware that there are people on this board who do not take the truth serious. Actually they do not belong here. They should be on the General Apologetics forum, because Science claims they can neither confirm nor deny God.

 

[Nathan Poe]

His has been published, he has a Phd, he studed under Gould at Harvard.
He is the head of the Center for Theology and Science for the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

There we go; he's got some credentials. Now, let's examine his claim that "the Bible is proof of God."

On what does he base that (rather grand) statement?

 

[Nathan Poe]

I am fully aware that there are people on this board who do not take the truth serious. Actually they do not belong here. They should be on the General Apologetics forum, because Science claims they can neither confirm nor deny God.

What does anything you say have to do with "the truth"?

 

[JohnR7]

What does anything you say have to do with "the truth"?

It is not what I say, it is what God says and what the Bible says that counts. We need to check everything out with the word of God to see if we can verify it or not.