Creationism - Lazy Man's science?

[And-U-Say]

My brother recommended it. I was attending a charismatic episcopal church. They are big on the charismas or the gifts of the Spirit. It was a good church and the teaching was good at the time.

Quote mining at its very best. Too bad you didn't look at the context. Perhaps it was too difficult to deal with??

 

[OdwinOddball]

I have given scientific evidence that shows Creationism to be true, just like I have given scientific evidence that shows Evolution not to be true.

No, you have SAID this numerous times, yet you have never presnted any of this so called evidence.

So would you care to actually share this with the rest of the class, or are you just going to keep dodging the question?

 

[OdwinOddball]

So how bout that evidence John? Got any yet?

 

[Beastt]

Science can be agnostic, but science can not be atheistic.

Which is why science continues to be agnostic. In demonstrating evolution to be factual, it hasn't proved there isn't a god. All science has done is demonstrate the means by which life on Earth diversified into many species. It might conflict with the Bible, depending on one's preferred means of interpretation, but it says nothing specific about the existence of a god.

 

[JohnR7]

If he even existed that is.

If Moses existed? The Bible is a very accurate history book and has been proven over and over again to be accurate in that regard. The Hebrew people had written language over 3500 years ago. Compared to the English that have only had written language for only about 1,000 year. You will find that the anglo-saxton chronicles are not as accurate as the Hebrew Bible is. We also have a lot of written records from Ninivah from around 3500 years ago, but you will not find nearly as many people to help you understand that, as you will find people willing to help you understand the Hebrew material from 3500 years ago. We have one account from a King of Ninivah, who talks about what he learned growing up. He learned math, he learned how to shoot the bow and arrow from horse back or charriot. He learned how to be a king. But what he enjoyed the most was to read the stories about the world before the flood.

The Bible is a gift from antiquity, so we should glean all the wisdom, knowledge and understanding from it we can.

 

[Alchemist]

Creationism isn't really lazy man's science. Many creationists, such as those at ICR and AIG, spend a vast amount of time and resources on "proving" creationism. It's just bad, repeatedly-falsified science.

 

[OdwinOddball]

So how bout that evidence John? Got any yet?

 

[Beastt]

So how bout that evidence John? Got any yet?

The microphone is on.

The floor is open.

Anyone see our guest speaker?

 

[povman]

hehe what a strange thread.

AV23847651234876 asserts everything he says as true without any evidence at all.
No wait, he uses the bible as evidence. please give evidence that the bible is a reliable source of information.

 

[Valkhorn]

If Moses existed? The Bible is a very accurate history book and has been proven over and over again to be accurate in that regard.

I just did a bit of research, and very little if anything at all points to a plausible Moses - much less the possibility of Hebrew Slaves leaving Egypt in some sort of Exodus.

Your evidence there John?

 

[steen]

I just did a bit of research, and very little if anything at all points to a plausible Moses - much less the possibility of Hebrew Slaves leaving Egypt in some sort of Exodus.

Your evidence there John?

I always wondered about that. The Egyptians kept rather good records, yet I have never seen any Egyptian source for a Jewish slave population anywhere. Do we actually have such records anywhere?

 

[USincognito]

I always wondered about that. The Egyptians kept rather good records, yet I have never seen any Egyptian source for a Jewish slave population anywhere. Do we actually have such records anywhere?

The apologist line is that the Egyptians didn't record losses, only victories, so they wiped out any references to the Hebrews after that whole Red Sea boondoggle.

The main issue I have with a huge slave population in Egypt during the Old Kingdom is that the monuments, mastabas and pyramids were public works projects meant to keep the farmers busy when they weren't tending crops. Why would they need a bunch of slaves to do work that served a social/public purpose.

 

[JohnR7]

So how bout that evidence John? Got any yet?

Evidence for what?

 

[JohnR7]

The apologist line is that the Egyptians didn't record losses, only victories, so they wiped out any references to the Hebrews after that whole Red Sea boondoggle.

They do not have any archaeology evidence. But there is linguistic evidence that the Hebrews or Semetic speaking people came up out of Egypt.

It could be they will find evidence. If they can get DNA out of Chedder man, then it should be no problem to find the remains of a Hebrew somewhere in Egypt.

You do realize that the Arabs have a Hebrew father (common ancestor) and a Egyption mother (common ancestor) don't you? Would that sort of a connection between the Egyptians and the Hebrews count for anything?

 

[steen]

The apologist line is that the Egyptians didn't record losses, only victories, so they wiped out any references to the Hebrews after that whole Red Sea boondoggle.

The main issue I have with a huge slave population in Egypt during the Old Kingdom is that the monuments, mastabas and pyramids were public works projects meant to keep the farmers busy when they weren't tending crops. Why would they need a bunch of slaves to do work that served a social/public purpose.

Indeed. And it then seems that the "excuse" rests squarely on a "just because I believe so" argument rather than any actual corroborating evidence.

 

[Valkhorn]

They do not have any archaeology evidence.

Next?

 

[Beastt]

I have given scientific evidence that shows Creationism to be true, just like I have given scientific evidence that shows Evolution not to be true.

No, you have SAID this numerous times, yet you have never presnted any of this so called evidence.

So would you care to actually share this with the rest of the class, or are you just going to keep dodging the question?

So how bout that evidence John? Got any yet?

So how bout that evidence John? Got any yet?

The microphone is on.

The floor is open.

Anyone see our guest speaker?

Your evidence there John?

Evidence for what?

Does that refresh your memory John? You said you had scientific evidence which shows creationism to be true and scientific evidence which shows evolution not to be true. Since then you've been ignoring the many invitations to present this evidence. Now you seem to have forgotten the statements you made altogether. So I'm reminding you that you've made claims you need to either back up or apologize for.

 

[JohnR7]

Does that refresh your memory John?

Sorry, I am limited in what I can post on here right now because of all the complaints people have filed against me.

 

[JohnR7]

So how bout that evidence John? Got any yet?

As Dr Kurt Wise says, the Bible is the evidence for God.

 

[creationismwhy]

As Dr Kurt Wise says, the Bible is the evidence for God.

Is Lord of the Rings evidence for Gandalf?