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If evolutionary theory says that there was no historical Adam, would you rewrite the Scriptures? Is life created by abiogenesis? If you answer yes to these questions are you not recognizing the supremacy of evolution over God, hence worship?
Nice curve ball.No. After all, the Bible clearly points to abiogenesis. God formed man from the dust of the ground. That is abiogenesis.
Christianity is a belief that Jesus was Christ.
Christianity is not taking every verse in the Bible as scientific or the complete set of cultural ideas of Paul.
Does evolution make it impossible that Jesus is Christ? No.
Does taking first chapters of Genesis as a mythological drama make it impossible that Jesus is Christ? No.
Exactly it is quite disingenuous to take a book that is quite ancient and ascribe modern notions to said book plus acting like what the English translation is actually what the book really says in the original language
Try reading the Bible.
It’s not intend3x as a science textbook, but there are many medical and science facts in the Bible, put there long before science, medicine, and astronomy learned it.
Sure.
Think about your own body. Lets start with your teeth. What is it's most known purpose? To eat. sure it's needed for your dialect, but in the end it's most known function is to break down food. In fact, your teeth are all different because they serve a different purpose for eating, your fangs tear flesh and your molars break it down, your saliva also plays a role.
Lets go to the animals. There are animals that have natural features that help them to eat, hunt, defend themselves, etc...
Now, in the beginning. Why would we need all of that, when prior to Adam sinning, there was no death? Why need teeth, goosebumps, sweat glands, body hair when we can't die?
Whatever was in Genesis is definitely not the same world. You can make the case that God created things instantly, but Adam and Eve and everything else had to physically change once they fell because all life physically submits to nature. Whether you want to believe Evolution happened after the forming of dust, or after the garden is up to you. Point, is not only is it compatible but christians can not just reject for any reason other than the bad theology and bible fanaticism
The verse you posted does not say that the whole creation changed when the sin (of Adam) came into the world.
The verse also does not specify what "the whole creation" means - the whole humanity? All living things? The whole physical universe? We can only guess. But what is more probable - our worldview or ancient people's worldview?
Again it depends on how we work with the Bible. Taking every word as literal or looking for the deeper meaning behind the words?
Evolution does not (commonly) do huge jumps. Its not that one creature was 100% animal and its child was 100% human.
Also, the language evolves through time, its not something that is complete from day 1.
Eve (if she was literal and not just symbolic) came from the same or similar group of homo sapiens as Adam did.
Evolution is supposed to be about science, not religion.
But anyone who claims to believe the Bible cannot accept ToE - they are diametrically opposed to each other.
Not to mention that evolutionary theory is horrible science, and completely false in its naturalistic and materialistic interpretation of the data, from abiogenesis to transitional fossils and common ancestry.
When God and Anti-god share the same room together and then we can worship both at the same time like some Shrodinger cat thing.
I am a christian scientist. I accept the Bible and the theory of evolution. As do many other scientists.
I don’t see how this post holds together. First,abiogenesis isn’t evolution. My belief in evolution isn’t squeezing out God. Rather, confining God to things we don’t understand is doing so. That’s the implication of denying evolution. The argument here seems to be if we have a scientific understanding of something, God can’t be responsible. That is fatal for Christianity.
Not from dirt, but from dust. Dust represents mortality.When God made Adam from dirt,
If you take the mythological drama written by ancient people for ancient people in mythological times as being scientific (written in the style of the 19th+ century), which is nonsense.he was the first and only man on earth, he had no mother or father or any relatives who were part of evolving into a human from a common ancestor
Cloning from Adam ribs cells... pure scientific fantasy. God took half of a man and created a woman, so that man does not feel whole until he unites with a woman. Thats the point of the story.- and there was no woman anywhere on earth, until God cloned her from Adams rib cells.
In the paradise, if you want to be literal. But lonelines of a man without a woman is the point, yes.We know this because when He made Eve He said,, it’s not good for the man, singular, to be ALONE.
Adam and Eve could have existed as individuals, thats nothing against science or history. But do not be naively suprised if they were just archetypes in a symbolic ancient story.BTW science has traced all of mankind’s ancestry to one man, they call chromosomal Adam, and one woman they call mtDNA Eve (mitochondrial DNA Eve).
The Bible explains that carnivores came about because Adams fall into sin cursed the world, and that when the world is restored to Edenic conditions and the lion will be a herbivore once again, along with all carnivores.
The Bible and evolution are diametrically opposed. One cannot be a bible believing Christian and accept ToE, they are completely contradictory.
And Eve was not in existence when God made Adam. When God created Eve, He said it’s not good for Adam to be alone.
And Jesus absolutely taught Adam and Eve and the creation account in a Genesis as literal, and all of Moses writings as the accurate word of God - they are not a metaphor, analogy or symbolism.
Evolution explains no such thing. It’s not even real science.
How long do you suppose it took to take the dust of the earth, form a man and breath life into it?
The bible doesnt say an infinite number of things, but that doesn't mean they happened.
Not from dirt, but from dust. Dust represents mortality.
If you take the mythological drama written by ancient people for ancient people in mythological times as being scientific (written in the style of the 19th+ century), which is nonsense.
Cloning from Adam ribs cells... pure scientific fantasy. God took half of a man and created a woman, so that man does not feel whole until he unites with a woman. Thats the point of the story.
In the paradise, if you want to be literal. But lonelines of a man without a woman is the point, yes.
Adam and Eve could have existed as individuals, thats nothing against science or history. But do not be naively suprised if they were just archetypes in a symbolic ancient story.
Exactly, however you missed the point and context of my post; and you have indirectly hinted evolution happening after the fall. As you said, they became carnivores so they had to develop natural features (both external and internal) and talents that carnivores have.
Now, there is one additional problem you have raised in your post: Why would there be herbivores back then if there was no death.. what is the point of eating?
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