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I'm ok with that, the NT is much more authentic to the originals and to truth than the OT. With the UB we now have the records made by those celestial beings who were actually on the earth during the times of Michaels bestowal.Two words: Textual criticism.
In his more honest moments even Bart Ehrman will admit that we have far more, and closer in time, documentary evidence for the New Testament than any other ancient text, and that, with few exceptions, we know what the authors originally wrote.
I actually like that picture, Colter.* pic *
I'm ok with that, the NT is much more authentic to the originals and to truth than the OT.
With the UB we now have the records made by those celestial beings who were actually on the earth during the times of Michaels bestowal.
God did not lie. Within 960 years, Adam and Even both died - a "day" equivalent to scripture that says "a thousand years is but a day to the Lord, and a day as a thousand years." Psalm 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8. And Satan lied. They did die.
In the next passage you refer to, the "us" God is referring to is to the Heavenly Host who is watching the whole thing. This could include all the angels, or the other persons of the Trinity, or both - because the next phrase codifies specifically who "us" is - an "us" who "lives forever."
There were two trees in the Garden. One tree could not be eaten from. Hebrew tradition states that when God gave Adam the choice "to eat from any tree in the Garden, except the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" it was actually a choice between the eating from the Tree of Life (which he did eat of course before the fall) or the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
The moment Adam sinned and ate from the wrong tree, death entered - a process that would take less than 960 years to complete. Had he eaten again from the Tree of Life, death would have halted, and Adam would not have died. But God did not want Adam to live forever, because if he did, then Adam would be just like the fallen angels that rebelled: Lucifer, who became Satan, and the angels that became demons: their ability to live forever has made their rebellious, sinful, and now imperfect condition - PERMANENT - forever. God loved man so much that he wanted to give them a second chance, but he had to withold the Tree of Life from him, until a day came when He Himself would BE the Tree of Life hanging on a cross 4000 years later, and man's sinful nature could be completely changed and reversed. - the debt of sin, death, would be paid in full. And now, man can live forever as perfect...again.
I actually like that picture, Colter.
I have a couple of questions for you:
1. Did Urantia get it right the first time?
2. In view of the fact that scientists don't have 100% agreement on everything, have knock-down-drag-out peer reviews, is myopic (as opposed to omniscient), change their paradigms with almost every new discovery, use trial-and-error until they get the result they're looking for, make mistakes (some of which have deadly consequences both to themselves and the innocent public), and can't wait until the next discovery shatters their existing paradigms ... in view of all that, does your cartoon apply to science as well?
I actually like that picture, Colter.
I have a couple of questions for you:
1. Did Urantia get it right the first time?
2. In view of the fact that scientists don't have 100% agreement on everything, have knock-down-drag-out peer reviews, is myopic (as opposed to omniscient), change their paradigms with almost every new discovery, use trial-and-error until they get the result they're looking for, make mistakes (some of which have deadly consequences both to themselves and the innocent public), and can't wait until the next discovery shatters their existing paradigms ... in view of all that, does your cartoon apply to science as well?
What?The paradigm used by the physical sciences hasn't changed since the time of Newton. Arguably the fact of consciousness will either force a paradigm shift, or it will remain forever unexplained.
That's blasphemy (meaning scientists will do everything they can to either justify it, or deny it).Jesus, aka Christ Michael,
What?
Because the Hebrews completed their conversion of secular history into a miraculous fiction before the Dead Sea scroll copies were made.Wherever the Masoretic Text can be compared with the Dead Sea Scrolls, they match almost exactly, with the exception of things like punctuation and spelling mistakes.
Baloney.
Their is more than one Michael in the Bible. Pig headed religious people think every new truth is blasphemy. That's how Jesus got killed. It was inevitable on such a narrow minded world.That's blasphemy (meaning scientists will do everything they can to either justify it, or deny it).
Jude 9 Yet Michael the archangel,
Hebrews 1:4 [Jesus] Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Are you making a point? if so, what is it?There is really no head scratching needed. The underlying assumption in Newton's day was that the universe was made up of "stuff" which got pushed around by forces. Sometimes those forces were mediated by an invisible force field.
That is still the underlying assumption of the physical sciences, even though it is becoming a bit frayed at the edges.
Because the Hebrews completed their conversion of secular history into a miraculous fiction before the Dead Sea scroll copies were made.
Antisemitism will be destroyed along with Earth 1 (Urantia).Because the Hebrews completed their conversion of secular history into a miraculous fiction before the Dead Sea scroll copies were made.
Revelation will be ongoing regardless of mans craving for doctrine formation.
Are you making a point? if so, what is it?
You're kidding me ... right?The point, my dear boy, is that the paradigm of the physical sciences hasn't changed; in direct contradiction to what you said.
Because the Hebrew priest carefully destroyed it after recasting their history. Although they did leave mention of them in their new records. Not that the Jews could possibly EVER be wrong about anything, because they are the super special apple of Gods eye, he even gave them their own eternal nation which they have oddly been more out of than in.Ah yes, that secular history, of which nobody has found so much as a trace.
You're kidding me ... right?
Did you know that Aristotle's paradigm stunted the growth of science for almost two thousand years?
But for the sake of arguing, let's say nothing has changed.
In that case, let me reiterate:
Scientists would get excited if it did.
As opposed to what?... he even gave them their own eternal nation which they have oddly been more out of than in.
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