Creation: Six Days or not?

Scholar in training · Jan 22, 2006

I do not believe that God made the earth or humans in six literal days, but I am leaning towards belief in a literal Adam and Eve.... Mainly because any other explanation of the origin of sin is Pelagian in nature, and that of course is not biblical nor is it realistic.

destinyhope · Jan 22, 2006

yes i do believe it! we have a great and powerful god.

Gwenyfur · Jan 22, 2006

If you want to put the literal 6 day creation into 1 day = 1000 years, then you need to consider

G-d created all green things bearing seed on the 3rd day...
1,000 years pass by
G-d created the Sun and Moon on the 4th day....
Them plants are already dead! no sunlight to feed them, and no insects to cross polinate???

Yusuf Evans · Jan 22, 2006

I think the Lord did do it, just not in actual 24hr days.

Jig · Jan 22, 2006

Gwenyfur said:
If you want to put the literal 6 day creation into 1 day = 1000 years, then you need to consider

G-d created all green things bearing seed on the 3rd day...
1,000 years pass by
G-d created the Sun and Moon on the 4th day....
Them plants are already dead! no sunlight to feed them, and no insects to cross polinate???

There was no need for millions of years to pass by. Also, when you follow the genealogies in the Bible one can figure Adam lived no longer then 8000 years ago, probably even earlier.

Why would God have the Earth evolve to get to the point were humans could live on it? God doesn't have to wait...God just does. Look at Adam, he didn't have to go through infantacy, God made him already capably to live on his own.

TreesNTrees · Jan 22, 2006

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years , and a thousand years as one day.

An important aspect of "rightly dividing" the word of truth as the scripture tells us, is to keep figures of speech figurative and literal statements literal.

2 Peter, by writing "as" a thousand years, is the figure of speech Simile, indicating that that 1 day = one day and 1000 years = one thousand years litererally; but from God's perspective is "as" if they were the same.

But in fact and truth, they are not equal. Thus God's inclusion of Simile with the "as".

NeoGRizzly · Jan 22, 2006

so it took jesus 3000 to be razed from the dead?

Lynn73 · Jan 22, 2006

I still think it's sad that Christians have to debate on this subject when the Bible speaks clearly. Why do you have to nitpic everything to death, just believe what it says! What's next? Jesus didn't literally die for our sins and rise from the dead? Nothing the Bible says happened really happened? Believe what you want, I believe God.

Scholar in training · Jan 22, 2006

Lynn73 said:
I still think it's sad that Christians have to debate on this subject when the Bible speaks clearly. Why do you have to nitpic everything to death, just believe what it says!

We can't believe it because it contradicts science. When one interpretation of revealed truth from God (the Bible) contradicts another revealed truth from God (nature, a record of what God has done) then we know that we have a problem. Truth cannot contradict truth.

What's next? Jesus didn't literally die for our sins and rise from the dead?

Anyone who denies these things is wrong to do so. But denying a literal six-day creation is certainly not the same thing as denying why Jesus died for us or that he is risen from the dead.

JonF · Jan 22, 2006

There are a few problems with a six day creation. Such as what is meant by the term day. Without a sun existing yet, it very well could mean something other than an orbital cycle. Also, the whole concept of time is kind of meaningless with out mass existing, so the first day would have come rather rough. If you insist on saying it is a 24 hour period, 24 hours relative to what?

I personally believe there is no way we can really form an intelligent point of view on what is meant by the time periods in Genesis creation account, but God knows and thats good enough for me.

TreesNTrees · Jan 22, 2006

Lynn73 said:
I still think it's sad that Christians have to debate on this subject when the Bible speaks clearly. Why do you have to nitpic everything to death, just believe what it says! What's next? Jesus didn't literally die for our sins and rise from the dead? Nothing the Bible says happened really happened? Believe what you want, I believe God.

What do you think a THEOLOGY forum is for?

If we want fellowship forums or teaching forums; those are available.

A theology forum is basically exactly for nitpicking the exact meanings of words, translations and comparing related verses.

Lynn73 · Jan 22, 2006

Scholar in training said:
We can't believe it because it contradicts science. When one interpretation of revealed truth from God (the Bible) contradicts another revealed truth from God (nature, a record of what God has done) then we know that we have a problem. Truth cannot contradict truth.

God created science, I should think He knows what happened, He was there. You should listen to Kent Hovind, he explains it beautifully. Scientific evidence has been suppressed because it didn't fit with the evolution theory. Mr. Hovind was telling bout a gentleman who refused to look at some skeletons that were found because He didn't want the evolution theory upset. He explains about the creation and pre flood conditions as compared to what we have now. You probably would scoff at him but I think he's right on. True science will support the Bible, man's version of it may not because man doesn't know it all plus he misinterprets the evidence he does find and makes a lot of assumtions. They built up , was it Piltdown man (one of those, anyway) from one single tooth which was later found to be the tooth of an extint pig. How scientifit is that? I trust God's word.

Forest · Jan 22, 2006

If you believe that "day" means a literal day as we understand it, then I would like someone to explain to me how that can be, since the sun was not created until the fourth day.

JonF · Jan 22, 2006

Forest said:
If you believe that "day" means a literal day as we understand it, then I would like someone to explain to me how that can be, since the sun was not created until the fourth day.

or better yet, a day relative to what, with out matter existing?

KEPLER · Jan 22, 2006

Lynn73 said:
God created science, I should think He knows what happened, He was there. You should listen to Kent Hovind, he explains it beautifully.

Kent Hovind? You mean the same Kent Hovind that other Creationists don't want anything to do with becasue he's a wack job?

(CF rules require empirical evidence for a statement like that, so here it is)

He's also been ivestigated for assault and battery, and tax fraud...and he's one of those "Local Militia" types to boot.

Hardly a good Christian example, I think.

Kepler

Mskedi · Jan 22, 2006

I can't answer this poll, I don't think, because in the large scheme of things I don't think it matters. Could God have created the earth in 6 days? Sure. Could he have created it with dinosaur bones for us to dig up? Why not. Did he? I don't think I can answer that. I don't see how this one thing could possibly affect my faith one way or another.

I wish there were a "It's a moot point" option. The world is here now. We have to deal with it as is.

KEPLER · Jan 22, 2006

Lynn73 said:
True science will support the Bible, man's version of it may not because man doesn't know it all plus he misinterprets the evidence he does find and makes a lot of assumtions. They built up , was it Piltdown man (one of those, anyway) from one single tooth which was later found to be the tooth of an extint pig. How scientifit is that? I trust God's word.

And Lynn, it's really kind of [font=&quot]passé any more to accuse everyone who doesn't agree with you of believing ALL the silly things that have been done in the name of science...

That particular style of bearing false witness went out with Senator McCarthy, did it not?

Kepler[/font]

Lynn73 · Jan 27, 2006

Did I say that? Sorry if I did.

alwayselearning · Jan 27, 2006

Yes, in faith I do.

zaire · Jan 27, 2006

Creation: Six Days or not?

Did God create the Universe in six days?

Yes, I believe it.

No, though God could have done it I don't believe he did.

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