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Spot on. That's why the evolutionists usually won't do live debates with creation scientists, because they are running scared (not that they would ever admit that; instead, they'll come up with some other excuse to turn down invitations to discuss the issues with their creation-believing counterparts).
It wasn't the intent of the opening thread, but the reaction doesn't surprise me one bit. I just got fed up of being told that creation-believing scientists aren't real scientists, are a joke (and various other derogatory phrases), etc. What I find sad is when some other Christians manipulate the plain reading of the Bible in order to try to accommodate the naturalistic ideas that abound today. It just adds confusion in my view, e.g., when did sin come into the world if we are not descendants of a literal Adam and Eve for instance? One even said "We're just evolved animals anyway." Does that sound like "created in the image of God" to you? I don't look at an ape or a monkey and wonder how many past generations I would have to go back in my family before they resembled creatures like that. I don't walk on the lawn and think about my most distant relatives that I am trampling underfoot. I ain't got time for nonsensical ideas like multiverses or life allegedly starting on its own from non-living chemicals. The type of science that deals with origins (life or the universe) is speculative anyway, despite all the protestations to the contrary and I don't care if they try to say otherwise. They may think they have it all worked out, but they don't (95% of the universe being unknown doesn't sound like much knowledge to me and what is known could be totally wrong), so I'm going to trust God's word and if it disagrees with man's ideas and in the absence of any PROOF to the contrary, then that's tough. So be it.
It's just one example of the many problems with the so-called Big Bang. To me, the whole idea makes as much sense as a chocolate teapot. I think God must be smiling at all our futile efforts to explain His creation.
Is anyone using evolution to do since either? Does it help build computers or cure diseases? I think not.
Where's your evidence for your dragon story? We have the Bible, the most studied and authenticated collection of ancient literature in the world by far. So give me an idea of how you would begin your story, have it develop a central theme over thousands of years, be written by many different writers on different continents (without the use of any modern technology I should add, while maintaining its accuracy from one copy to the next) as well as having the ability to prophesy events that would happen hundreds of years in the future? Your story would have to be so powerful that a whole new group of people would start to believe in it and would be prepared to die to defend it. It would have to be so powerful that even the way we record time would eventually be changed to recognise the merits of its central character. You say, "I win"; somehow I doubt it, but if you're up for it, give it a go. I haven't got many more years ahead of me, but I would expect to hear something about your story before I die.
Yes. Evolution is science, and evolution is used constantly by scientists.
You may think not, but you're simply wrong. We use evolution all the time to understand biology and human disease. The research institute I work for exists for the sole purpose of applying science to human health, and we invest quite a lot into studying evolution at all scales, since it's the best way to understand lots of biology. If creationism really were scientific, it would provide the kinds of insights that evolution does. It isn't and it doesn't, so scientists have no reason to pay attention to it.
You mean, how life can't form (without supernatural input that it). That would be the sensible conclusion from what they ahve discovered thus far.
Yes it does, if God created life then He's in control of everything in the universe, including but not limited to life on this planet. Evolution would mean that God used a cruel and wasteful way to develop mankind that is supposed to be created "in the image of God." I don't accept that and many (not the majority admittedly) totally reject that idea as well. There are millions of people in the world who also reject such a notion.
But you can't come up with a rational explanation of how it all came about, so you've only got part of the story. If you've only got part of the story, then you don't know anything for certain.
I, on the other hand, reject the idea that we're in a position to tell God how he should have gone about creating.
Everyone has only part of the story, and no one knows anything for certain. You can't change that by announcing that something has to be true by fiat, or by "totally rejecting" ideas.
Yes they are. The book of Genesis is the most quoted book in the whole New Testament. The Creator of the universe when here in human form never once put any doubt on what we are told in Genesis. I would suggest ready the excellent book "The Stranger on the Road to Emmaus" if you have any doubt about that or about the importance of the Genesis account to the overall theme of the Bible.
