Creation Science

[Larniavc]

Word to Christians on this site. When an atheist links to a source make sure to check it (and double check wikipedia as a source since skeptics love to sign up there to be editors). From the source above -



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You are correct and my post was inaccurate. It did however result in the first uniform Christian doctrine called the Nicaean Creed that went on to allow cannon to be established.

I stand corrected.

 

[Oncedeceived]

You are correct and my post was inaccurate. It did however result in the first uniform Christian doctrine called the Nicaean Creed that went on to allow cannon to be established.

I stand corrected.

Thank you for your admission, it should be noted that the Christian Cannon had long been established and the documents that had the authority were the ones that would be put into the Bible as we know it today.

 

[Larniavc]

Thank you for your admission, it should be noted that the Christian Cannon had long been established and the documents that had the authority were the ones that would be put into the Bible as we know it today.

Fair enough. I guess that this answers Joshua 19's question for him, too.

 

[RickG]

I think I have made my self really clear. Since you still identify with Christian as a presbyterian I shouldn't have to stress the point that Christians are not free to make false accusations against other Christians.

So, if he was a Muslim, atheist, or Hebrew, I can criticize him?

1. I am not making a false accusation, and I am criticizing his science, not his religion. Furthermore, John Woodmorappe is not even his real name, it is a pseudoname, and I am not criticizing him personally, I am criticizing his (mis)representation of the geologic column.

 

[joshua 1 9]

So you have chosen the "believe in it really, really hard" path. That answers that question.

A life without God is the difficult life. The Christian life is an easy life. Most people make life difficult for themselves by living in rebellion against God and against what is right, good, proper and true. Look at people in prison, in a split second they have ruined their life because they choose to break the law.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Can you show me one place where the Biblical timeline exists?

There are lots of timelines on the internet. Notice how Noah's father Lamech and Adam are both alive at the same time.

 

[bhsmte]

A life without God is the difficult life. The Christian life is an easy life. Most people make life difficult for themselves by living in rebellion against God and against what is right, good, proper and true. Look at people in prison, in a split second they have ruined their life because they choose to break the law.

How would you know a non believer has a more difficult life?

 

[joshua 1 9]

How would you know a non believer has a more difficult life?

Science Esp non believers have a shorter life, five years to be exact. The Christian life is still a better, more healthy and longer life then the non christian. If for no other reason then because they are a part of the community when they belong to a church. If they actually worship God there or not. I have heard of Amish people that would forsake their own family to keep their membership in the church safe and secure.

IN FACT the Harvard 75 year study shows that our relationships with others is the MOST important factor in our health and longevity. More important even then diet and exercise. The more people are a part of a community the more healthy and happy they are. The more isolated the less happy and less healthy they are and the shorter their life.

 

[bhsmte]

Science Esp they have a shorter life, five years to be exact.

Evidence?

Also, what about quality of life?

 

[joshua 1 9]

Evidence?

Also, what about quality of life?

Do your own research. Christians have a much better life. John Wesley complained that Christians are victims of their own success. They become complacent because they live a very comfortable life. He felt they would somehow have been better off if they had to struggle a little more.

 

[joshua 1 9]

How do you determine if a claim is true or not? Does a claim become true if you simply believe in it really, really hard?

I check it out and verify it. If you would make any attempt at all to verify the Bible then you would see that it is accurate and true. You can not expect others to do it for you. You will be held responsible for what you do with your life.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I don't think, for example, this particular David fought this creature called "Goliath", or that there even is such a creature to begin with.

It would not matter if the story were true or not. The principles remain the same. That is why these ancient stories still exist, because of the part they play in the collective conscious. Look at Freud, a lot of his stores were based on Greek Mythology. Things like Oedipus complex and stuff like that.

"Sigmund Freud put forward the idea that symbolic communication does not depend on cultural history alone but also on the workings of the psyche. Thus Freud introduced a transhistorical and biological conception of man and a view of myth as an expression of repressed ideas. Dream interpretation is the basis of Freudian myth interpretation and Freud's concept of dreamwork recognizes the importance of contextual relationships for the interpretation of any individual element in a dream. This suggestion would find an important point of rapprochement between the structuralist and psychoanalytic approaches to myth in Freud's thought" (R. Caldwell, The Psychoanalytic Interpretation of Greek Myth, 344)

By virtue of the FACT that you trash the Bible, that in and of itself substantiates the Bible as truth. You would not be trashing it if it were myth and fairly tale, you would celebrate it then. So yet once again you have testified against yourself and proven the Bible to be true. Keep up the good work, your on a roll.

 

[bhsmte]

Do your own research. Christians have a much better life. John Wesley complained that Christians are victims of their own success. They become complacent because they live a very comfortable life. He felt they would somehow have been better off if they had to struggle a little more.

It was your claim.

 

[joshua 1 9]

It was your claim.

"A new report indicates that those who believe in God not only live a healthier life but also add 14 years to their life."

"The report, "Health Benefits of Christian Faith” by Drs. Alex Bunn and David Randall, drew its evidence from over 1,200 studies and 400 reviews."

" faith is associated with longer life and a wide range of health benefits. In particular, faith is associated with improved mental health.”

http://www.christianpost.com/news/report-christians-live-healthier-longer-49976/

 

[joshua 1 9]

I am asking for one archeological dig where artifacts from every event in the Bible are neatly stacked one on top of the other.

Jericho has been around for at least 6,000 years. So everything there would be stacked on top of the other. Even before Jericho was a city people camped out in that area.

Your thinking of Geology and Evolution where there is no one place in the world where you can find all the geological layers. This is not a concern for the Bible, because the Bible only covers the last 6,000 years of recorded history. The Bible is recorded history, before recorded history you have to go by artifacts and natural evidence that God left for us, like fossils. There are of course artifacts that archaeology has discovered or found that substantiates that the Bible is accurate and true.

 

[joshua 1 9]

So you have chosen the "believe in it really, really hard" path. That answers that question.

That is the opposite of what I said. You are telling us how you operate. Somehow you think if you can just believe hard enough none of this will be true. That is why I support Science because Science is very active to do the research to verify what is and what is not true. They do not just believe really really hard as you suggest. Even evolutionists make a token attempt every now and then to substantiate what they believe.

 

[Loudmouth]

A life without God is the difficult life. The Christian life is an easy life. Most people make life difficult for themselves by living in rebellion against God and against what is right, good, proper and true. Look at people in prison, in a split second they have ruined their life because they choose to break the law.

Whether it is easy or hard, it says nothing about the truth of the matter.

 

[Loudmouth]

Jericho has been around for at least 6,000 years. So everything there would be stacked on top of the other. Even before Jericho was a city people camped out in that area.

Can we find evidence of the Exodus from Egypt at the Jericho site? Can we find evidence of an early church at Jericho? What about the history of the Catholic church? Is it also found at Jericho?

Your thinking of Geology and Evolution where there is no one place in the world where you can find all the geological layers.

Actually, there are places where you can find all of the layers, but that is beside the point.

There is no expectation that we should find all of the layers at one place because there is no requirement for sedimentation to occur 100% of the time through history at one place without any erosion or total loss to subduction.

This is not a concern for the Bible, because the Bible only covers the last 6,000 years of recorded history.

So where can I find a single archeological site that has artifacts from every event in the Bible over the last 6,000 years?

 

[Loudmouth]

I check it out and verify it.

How do you verify that two species were separately created?

How do you verify the age of the Earth?

 

[Loudmouth]

There are lots of timelines on the internet. Notice how Noah's father Lamech and Adam are both alive at the same time.

Where can I find an archaeological site where artifacts from every event on that timeline are stacked on top of one another?