Creation or Evolution, does it matter?

[juvenissun]

How would that work, exactly? Would it be similar to merging quantum mechanics and auto mechanics?

Some way, some how. People should try.
Evolutionist completely cut it off. Afraid would be the only explanation.

 

[juvenissun]

How would that work, exactly? Would it be similar to merging quantum mechanics and auto mechanics?

Think! If we explore the evolution of life in a new planet, would we start with abiogenesis or with the first "species"? If we found many types of proteins on Mars, would we be excited to think the Mars once evolved some life?

 

[juvenissun]

Evolution already makes full use of physics and chemistry.

If so, why do they study abiogenesis?

 

[juvenissun]

Hey.... I can do geology and figure out how rivers form without using a single idea of germ theory. Therefor germ theory is useless!

This is a new low.

You ani't see anything yet.
Germs DO affect the river dynamics. Be humble!

 

[juvenissun]

No. YOUR idea of evolution is useless.





Let me guess: we must read the bible instead?

Your style of argument is way way lower than what Speedwell is doing. Read more his post and learn how to argue. If you don't have anything better to say, you are not obligated to make any noise.

 

[juvenissun]

How would that work, exactly? Would it be similar to merging quantum mechanics and auto mechanics?

First, identify an biogenetic process, then see if any principle of evolution could help to advance the understanding.

 

[Speedwell]

First, identify an biogenetic process, then see if any principle of evolution could help to advance the understanding.

I don't know what you mean by "biogenetics" but if genetics is involved in the process, then you've gone beyond abiogenesis.

 

[Speedwell]

If so, why do they study abiogenesis?

They don't. That's the whole point of the discussion. Other scientists study abiogenesis.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Why not include it? Chicken.

Different fields, different scopes, different area's of study.

Don't let honesty get in your way.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Are you saying in the study of evolution, water does not freeze?

I'm saying that you're a troll that can not be taken seriously.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Your style of argument is way way lower than what Speedwell is doing. Read more his post and learn how to argue. If you don't have anything better to say, you are not obligated to make any noise.

Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Never mind

 

[Speedwell]

Your style of argument is way way lower than what Speedwell is doing. Read more his post and learn how to argue. If you don't have anything better to say, you are not obligated to make any noise.

I'm not arguing. I'm just trying to clear up a serious misunderstanding on your part--that the theory of evolution is a biological "theory of everything.". Then we can argue.

 

[juvenissun]

I'm not arguing. I'm just trying to clear up a serious misunderstanding on your part--that the theory of evolution is a biological "theory of everything.". Then we can argue.

Yes, evolution is trying to be a theory of everything.

 

[Speedwell]

Yes, evolution is trying to be a theory of everything.

Only in your imagination.

 

[juvenissun]

Only in your imagination.

I don't get you.
You don't talk about the meat of evolution, but you defend the idea of evolution. I won't do that. I won't either attack or defend a theory I don't understand. But obviously you do.

 

[46AND2]

I don't get you.
You don't talk about the meat of evolution, but you defend the idea of evolution. I won't do that. I won't either attack or defend a theory I don't understand. But obviously you do.

Yes you will. You clearly don't understand evolution, yet you attack it all the time.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

What evolution?????

Fossils that remain the same for every creature across millions of years and can only be connected to other types by "missing" common ancestors?

E coli that despite countless mutations remain E coli?

Fruit flies that despite untold mutations remain fruit flies?

It deserves to be attacked, it isn't a theory at all but a bunch of garbage. Error after uncorrected error, incorrect classification after incorrect classification is the ToE....

 

[Speedwell]

I don't get you.
You don't talk about the meat of evolution, but you defend the idea of evolution. I won't do that. I won't either attack or defend a theory I don't understand. But obviously you do.

The "meat" of evolution is randomly distributed heritable variation acted on by natural selection. We will talk about that as much as you want.

 

[juvenissun]

The "meat" of evolution is randomly distributed heritable variation acted on by natural selection. We will talk about that as much as you want.

How about the one just posted before yours?

Fossils that remain the same for every creature across millions of years and can only be connected to other types by "missing" common ancestors?

E coli that despite countless mutations remain E coli?

Fruit flies that despite untold mutations remain fruit flies?

It deserves to be attacked, it isn't a theory at all but a bunch of garbage. Error after uncorrected error, incorrect classification after incorrect classification is the ToE....

Do you feel comfortable to talk about them? At least, give some first-level rebuttals.