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In the beginning was El
Actually the results from long term adaptive experiments are in line with Creationism and actually also go against Darwinian evolution. The ability for created systems to adapt isn't a refutation and your car can adapt through mechanisms for turning on/off its lights. This has nothing to do with car to airplane phenomena though.
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The bible is the fundamentalist's emotional security blanket. Take it away from them and you have a very frightened child staring back at you.
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That won't happen in America though; our Bill of Rights insure no pogrom will occur legally on U.S. soil -- and if it happens overseas, then 'a very frightened child' should be staring back.
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Um, this has nothing to do with the Bill of Rights. This has to do with your seeming lack of ability to process any form of reasoning or train of thought without running to your Bible. It almost seems as though your brain has been substituted by a book of fables.
If the best evidence you can show to prove that the Bible is true is because the Bible says so, further discussion with you is simply a complete waste of time, because it's no use trying to reason with someone who's incapable of processing reason.
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Losing faith happens all the time, AV, even in America. And even to fundamentalists, even if it is harder for them.
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Yes, it does.
He is verbalizing a mindset that, although cloaked in [supposedly] innocent jest and belittlement, is actually portraying a lack of tolerance for Christianity.
I say, "Come and get our Bibles", and let's see what happens.
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If you think confiscating our Bibles will cause us to lose faith, then you have no clue what faith is.
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You're the one who said it -- care to put feet to your suggestion? or are you just [supposedly] in a mood to belittle someone?
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There's no reason to reformulate something that was said ages ago. You will rile (and rile you will) and writhe all the same.
"Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives' tales" ( 1Timothy 4:7)
You seem to think that analysis of spiritual text must harbor your fictional belief that the bible is unreliable. By the way how about showing also how purely naturalistic unintelligent processes can build a man.
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Adaption is different to evolution over generations.
If an alien landed and walked up to us we would not know if it was a designed thing or a product of evolvolution.
If it was made of flesh bone and blood we would still not know.
If it reproduced by it's self it or by sexual methods it would by subject to the selective pressures of it's enviroment and thus subject to evolution. But we would still not be able to say that it was or was not the porducet of design.
If we examined it's equivalent of DNA, that is it's mechanisim for passing on it's pattern to the next generation, we would find either of 2 things.
1 A set of instructions laid out with at least some level of intelegence and consistencey. Single ideas would have single locations. They would not be fragmented and randomly spaced out. Visualise a filing system of some sort.
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2 An example of the selective choosing from randomness. If you visualise a hundred filing systems thrown up in the air, mixed and then shreaded, you have something of the picture of the information in DNA. Chance botch job repairs to bits that did not work are all over the place and have been refined to work well.
If you you found 1 it's been designed by an intelegent designer.
If you found 2 it has almost certainly been subject to selective breeding. This may have been overseen by intelegence and may have been added to by bits of design, genetic engineering.
If you then compaired it's DNA or equivalent pattern copying mechanisim to other members of it's species you would, if it's natural selection at work, see various givaway things going on which will confirm it.
If you are able to look at it's home planet and the other animals on there they will, if they and it have come about via evolution, show common features. Such as the general type of eye is common to all vertibates on earth. Or that the specific way blood clots involves 5 protiens when it could use 1 but this is common to us all. Then you have proof undeniable.
If you examine the fossil record on the planet and found the fossils of previous ancestor species of the alien with examples of the extinction of different "failed" branches in the time line you have proof beyond utterly undeniable proof.
If your study of some of the aniamls of the alien world allows you to make very good predictions about the way the "DNA" of the other animals is put together you have a useful aspect of the already confirmed theory.
This study of "DNA" will also allow you to make statements about when different types of animal last had a common ancester. When this reflects the way the continental plates have moved around on the planet you can afford a smug grin.
The theory of designed creation is proovably wrong (easily).
The theory of evolution is proovably correct. In sooooo many ways.
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He was merely talking about your addiction to the psychotropic drug called religion and how your view of reality is being blurred by it. The fact that you immediately jump to the conclusion that he was trying to threaten you in any way and invoke the Bill of Rights only proves his "emotional security blanket" remark.
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Not exactly. I know the mountains of scientific evidence presented by genetics, molecular biology, astrophysics, geology, nuclear physics, paleontology, physical chemistry, biochemistry etc prove the Biblical account of creation completely and utterly wrong. As for "showing also how purely naturalistic unintelligent processes can build a man", you'd know the answer if you actually bothered to read up on the theory of evolution. Thanks for proving that, yet again, it's the scientifically-illiterate fundies who try so desperately out of sheer, staggering ignorance to deny what they don't understand. You can try as hard as you want to rail against something you don't know and stick to the dumbed-down-to-childish-levels Biblical creation story because that's all your intellect is capable of understanding, but that doesn't mean it's true.
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AV1611VET, why is it that you keep asking for evidence to prove you wrong when we know that, the moment anyone tries to do that, all you'll do is simply retreat back into your Biblical alternate dimension again where your Jesus Field(tm) completely shields you from all the harmful effects of logic and reason?
I mean, honestly... what's the point?
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