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Creation Evidence
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RealityCheck
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Creation "evidence" consists solely of false dichotomy arguments, in the form of "evolution doesn't explain this, therefore it's wrong, therefore creation is right." That's it, that's all there is to the creationist argument, end of story.
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RealityCheck
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I am not happy with the site's decision to allow third-party advertising. The banner ads are bad, but when someone thinks that they can sell "sciencesux" t-shirts through this site, that's truly disheartening and disgusting.
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Not at all. The only thing that the theory of evolution requires is imperfect replicators. How those replicators got there in no way affects the theory of evolution.
Atomic theory requires the generation of atoms. For a long time no one had any clue where atoms came from, but they were still very confident that two hydrogens combine with a single oxygen to form water. In the same way, scientists are very, very confident that all life evolved from a single ancestral gene pool no matter how that first life came about.
Every single insertion and substitution produces new information. You have 150 point mutations that are not found in either of your parents. That is additional genetic information.
That's what evolution states as well. Humans and chimps are apes, and their children are apes. Humans and bears are mammals, and their children are mammals. Humans and fish are vertebrates, and their children are vertebrates. Humans and ameoba are eukaryotes, and their offspring are eukaryotes. Humans and bacteria are biota, and their offspring are biota.
Evolution is silent on non-living to living transition, but evolution does state that no new kinds of life arise from other kinds. You are what your ancestors were plus modifications.
I think you have your stories mixed up. The Genesis story has humans coming from rocks.
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MasterOfKrikkit
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For another example of banner ads run amok, check out this thread for some hilarity.
That is 17 kinds of awesome.
Usually I ignore the ads, but now I'm taking a look... hmm, there's a creationism conference coming up just down the road. It's tempting to go and see what kind of "conference" you can have on creationism, given that this thread seems to have established that there is no actual creationist research being done or to be done.
BTW (while I'm here), does anyone know where the "Christians only" crevo forum is hiding? I can't find it, despite the blurb at the top saying there is one. I'm morbidly curious to see what discussion goes on there. (And maybe tiptoe in there with my delicate steel-toed boots of +4 arsekicking and see if I can get banned for not being a True Scotsman/Christian.
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MasterOfKrikkit
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Loudmouth, it doesn't matter much, but I think you ended up replying to the wrong person: ranmaonehalf was replying to the OP, as were you.
/pedantry (actually, I don't think that tag works for me)
/pedantry (actually, I don't think that tag works for me
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It's in General Theology and called Origins Theology. There are also subforums within it for Creationism and Theistic Evolution. If you're expecting to be the only theistic evolutionist don't hold you're breath - we already rule the roost.That is 17 kinds of awesome.
Usually I ignore the ads, but now I'm taking a look... hmm, there's a creationism conference coming up just down the road. It's tempting to go and see what kind of "conference" you can have on creationism, given that this thread seems to have established that there is no actual creationist research being done or to be done.
BTW (while I'm here), does anyone know where the "Christians only" crevo forum is hiding? I can't find it, despite the blurb at the top saying there is one. I'm morbidly curious to see what discussion goes on there. (And maybe tiptoe in there with my delicate steel-toed boots of +4 arsekicking and see if I can get banned for not being a True Scotsman/Christian.
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MasterOfKrikkit
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Thanks! "Origins Theology"... of course
Er, OK. I guess I'll have to check them out, but that seems... overkill. Seems a bit like someone's trying desperately to find a safe haven... but maybe I'm just paranoid
Mwahahaha! Ehhhxcellent. But are you all as tactless as I am?
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Yes, we theistic evolutionists don't take criticism very well. Our ideas look a lot better in a bubble.Er, OK. I guess I'll have to check them out, but that seems... overkill. Seems a bit like someone's trying desperately to find a safe haven... but maybe I'm just paranoid
Naturally yes. We try to restrain ourselves though.
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Chalnoth
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Oh, I'm pretty sure that's exactly it. Creationism simply cannot survive in an open discussion, so this is, effectively, the only way that CF can keep creationists around.Er, OK. I guess I'll have to check them out, but that seems... overkill. Seems a bit like someone's trying desperately to find a safe haven... but maybe I'm just paranoid
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MasterOfKrikkit
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Note to self: next time, listen to uberd00b's advice.
Yeah. I had a quick look around... it was pretty icky. There were a few sane voices, but... guess which camp they came from
But I noticed some threads where evilutionists infiltrated and committed the grave heresy of talking about evidence and whathaveyou... they were summarily (ahem) "expelled".
The TE subforum seems a bit sparse. Only a couple of threads even close to recent, which isn't too surprising: what's to discuss, really, that isn't covered here? (Well, apart from creationists trying the same crap with TEers as they do here with evilutionists.
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Yeah. I had a quick look around... it was pretty icky. There were a few sane voices, but... guess which camp they came from
But I noticed some threads where evilutionists infiltrated and committed the grave heresy of talking about evidence and whathaveyou... they were summarily (ahem) "expelled".The TE subforum seems a bit sparse. Only a couple of threads even close to recent, which isn't too surprising: what's to discuss, really, that isn't covered here? (Well, apart from creationists trying the same crap with TEers as they do here with evilutionists.
)
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